Re: Chasers Care-avan Perspective
| October 30, 2013 02:27PM |
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Earl Wrote:
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> When I was running charter trains way back
> when, it became obvious there were two vari-
> eties of fans who rode:
>
> 1. The guys who wanted the experience of
> riding the train, seeing the equipment in ac-
> tion and taking in the entire event. They took
> pics so they could remember the experience.
>
> 2. The guys who are hard core photographers
> who are out there to create the perfect "phraud-
> o-graph" (just made that up) where there is ab-
> solutely no difference between the image they
> took and an image taken in 1940-whatever.
Phraud-O-Graph! I like it!! Keep up that sort of cynicism, Earl, and you'll be a Curmudgeon long before you're chronillogically eligible!
trainrider47 Wrote:
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> There is a third category, folks that love riding
> trains but also want to capture some images
> that they were too young to get when it was all
> for real. Sure, the radios in the crew's pockets
> are a give away,* but it's fun trying to capture
> some of the look and feel of the old days.
Right on, Michael - that's one reason why the May 25, 2010 train was advertised as a COMMEMORATION, and NOT a RE-ENACTMENT.
* See [ngdiscussion.net].
> And if it's done right, some of those old railroad
> operating techniques can be preserved too. You
> won't have a rear end pusher on a C&TS passen-
> ger, but when someone pays to have a rear end
> helper on a photo freight, the crews get to prac-
> tice a nearly lost art. Anyone paying attention
> can learn something too. Hearing the whistle
> talk between the road engine and the helper
> when they are getting underway is pretty cool.
>
> The other thing that a charter can accomplish is
> getting photos in cool lighting that almost never
> happens with a scheduled train. Sunrise and
> sunset shots, for example. Yeah, if the train is
> late enough you can get sunset shots, but you
> would have to be really late for a sunrise!
Right on again, Michael - and that's why the May 25, 2010 train was originally planned with Alan to run in the late afternoon and evening.
The G.M. forced a schedule change on us that messed up both a moonrise shot and a night photo shoot that we had been counting on.
> Maybe we should think of photo freights as the
> railroad equivalent of Civil War reëenacting.
> Watching reënactors take a break and talk on
> their i-phones can be pretty silly, but everyone
> involved is having fun and that's what it should
> be all about.
HAVING FUN, Michael?
Don't be ridiculous!! With an attitude like that you'll NEVER join Earl, JBWX, Roger, Steve and me as a REAL Curmudgeon!!
- Rüsso
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2013 02:52PM by Russo Loco.
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> When I was running charter trains way back
> when, it became obvious there were two vari-
> eties of fans who rode:
>
> 1. The guys who wanted the experience of
> riding the train, seeing the equipment in ac-
> tion and taking in the entire event. They took
> pics so they could remember the experience.
>
> 2. The guys who are hard core photographers
> who are out there to create the perfect "phraud-
> o-graph" (just made that up) where there is ab-
> solutely no difference between the image they
> took and an image taken in 1940-whatever.
Phraud-O-Graph! I like it!! Keep up that sort of cynicism, Earl, and you'll be a Curmudgeon long before you're chronillogically eligible!
trainrider47 Wrote:
=======================================================
> There is a third category, folks that love riding
> trains but also want to capture some images
> that they were too young to get when it was all
> for real. Sure, the radios in the crew's pockets
> are a give away,* but it's fun trying to capture
> some of the look and feel of the old days.
Right on, Michael - that's one reason why the May 25, 2010 train was advertised as a COMMEMORATION, and NOT a RE-ENACTMENT.
* See [ngdiscussion.net].
> And if it's done right, some of those old railroad
> operating techniques can be preserved too. You
> won't have a rear end pusher on a C&TS passen-
> ger, but when someone pays to have a rear end
> helper on a photo freight, the crews get to prac-
> tice a nearly lost art. Anyone paying attention
> can learn something too. Hearing the whistle
> talk between the road engine and the helper
> when they are getting underway is pretty cool.
>
> The other thing that a charter can accomplish is
> getting photos in cool lighting that almost never
> happens with a scheduled train. Sunrise and
> sunset shots, for example. Yeah, if the train is
> late enough you can get sunset shots, but you
> would have to be really late for a sunrise!
Right on again, Michael - and that's why the May 25, 2010 train was originally planned with Alan to run in the late afternoon and evening.
The G.M. forced a schedule change on us that messed up both a moonrise shot and a night photo shoot that we had been counting on.
> Maybe we should think of photo freights as the
> railroad equivalent of Civil War reëenacting.
> Watching reënactors take a break and talk on
> their i-phones can be pretty silly, but everyone
> involved is having fun and that's what it should
> be all about.
HAVING FUN, Michael?
Don't be ridiculous!! With an attitude like that you'll NEVER join Earl, JBWX, Roger, Steve and me as a REAL Curmudgeon!!
- Rüsso
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2013 02:52PM by Russo Loco.
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