Roger Hogan Wrote:
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> > After the Friends this year finish cosmetically
> > restoring 483 the plan is it will be on display on
> > Terrace Ave. The village has been asking for a
> > display engine for many years and now HRM
> > will be gettin' 'er done. This is the [best] pos-
> > sible site for the pretty lady to show off.
Then Chris Webster Wrote:
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> I have not been keeping up with C&TS news,
> so I have a couple of questions about Roger's
> announcement:
>
> (1) Can someone direct me to the minutes of the
> Commission meeting in which they approved this
> move of one of their major assets?
See 2:45 on
(Thanks to Steve Forney for recording this, and Rich Murray for pointing it out.) - rl
> (2) My recollection is that there is a rather
> steep slope from the road down to the C&TS's
> parking lot. (The top of the hill was a really
> good vantage point from which to get photos of the
> 1st train rolling into Chama, as the train passed
> the superstructure of the original Lobato bridge,
> a few days prior to its scrapping.) I don't re-
> member the exact angle of the slope, but my
> memories suggest that it is probably inadequate
> to support the weight of a new display track, plus
> new ballast, plus a tender, plus a ~93 ton lo-
> comotive ... so what kind of retaining wall (or
> other slope stabilizing treatment) is planned for
> the hill between the street and the parking lot?
IIRC, Chama has filed plans with the New Mexico DOT in order to accomplish the following:
"Due to the instability of the slope between State Highway 17 (Terrace Avenue) and the C&TS railroad yard, said Highway will become a divided road from just south of the Village Clock northwards for 150 yards. The northbound lane will be shifted twenty feet (20') to the east in order to provide a twenty-foot (20') median between the lanes. A display of C&TS Locomotive #483 (ex-D&RGW #483) and an histörically accurate train of snow-fighting equipment will be centered in this median. Weight restrictions near the embankment will require that all northbound trucks exceeding 25,000# gross weight be detoured one block to the west." - rl
> (3) Photography is a very important priority to
> many C&TS visitors, as demonstrated by the
> multiple posts here that falsely alleged that pho-
> tographers would be banned from the Chama yard.
> How will having a stuffed-n-mounted locomotive
> approximately 60 ft above track level change the
> photographs made during morning switching moves
> and departures?
See [ngdiscussion.net]. - rl
> (4) Who is paying for the new display track, new
> retaining wall (if needed) and the physical move
> of the locomotive? HRM/AHR, the Commission,
> The Friends, or some other entity?
Per an Amendment to the Act of Congress which established the Bi-State RR Commission and the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad: A nein-nein-nein-percent tax will be levied on all sales of stocks and bonds, all minerals - including oil and gas - extracted from public lands, and all donations to political candidates and PACs within the United States and the territories thereof. - rl
> (5) How will spray from the road salt brine be
> kept off of the stuffed-n-mounted locomotive?
The display will be elevated twelve feet (12') above the level of the roadway surface. This difference in height should be sufficient to prevent splashing brine from impacting the display.*
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El Curmudgeono de los Locos Viejos y Verdes
* Due to this blockage of the view from sidewalks and shops on the west side of Terrace Avenue, Roger Hogan has appealed to the Planning Commission for a height waiver so that a third story can be added to the front half of The Hotel, with a "widow's walk" viewing platform on top of the roof thereof.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2012 11:04AM by Russo Loco.
