Welcome! Log In Create A New Profile

Advanced

The Intended Gage

January 02, 2012 03:52PM
My main concern about this subject is learning what gage was originally intended for the Hecla & Torch Lake Railroad.

In considering all of the evidence, I have reached the following conclusion:

There was an error in specifying the gage for the first locomotive. I do not believe the error has ever been explained or quantified. The letter from mine manager Alexander Agassiz purports to do both, but the amount of the error does not correlate with the nature of the error, so one or the other must be wrong. And a third possibility is that both are wrong. If this is the case, it is ironic that Mr. Agassiz made an error in explaining the mistake that was similar to the actual error in the mistake.

The railroad was built in 1867, and the Michigan State Gazeteer of 1875 makes reference to the H&TL as being four-foot-gage. We know that after the mistake in specifying the gage of the first locomotive, the gage was changed to 4’-1”. This occurred before the railroad was finished and put into operation, and 4’-1” remained the gage from the start of operation until the line was standard-gaged in 1907.

Therefore, the reference to four-foot-gage by the Michigan State Gazeteer is not correct. It might have simply been a mistake. But official records often reflect an earlier status, which has since been revised. Records tend to lag behind in that regard.

We can probably assume that the Michigan State Gazeteer did not actually measure the gage. Their reporting of the gage was likely based on information they received from the H&TL. If H&TL told the Michigan State Gazeteer that the gage of their railroad was four feet, they might have provided that information in error. But then that would amount to a second gage interpretation error involving this railroad that would be completely independent of the error made with the gage of the first locomotive.

The more likely explanation is that the H&TL told the Michigan State Gazeteer that they were building a four-foot-gage railroad because that is what they were doing in 1867 before they ordered their first locomotive. And that would explain why the Michigan State Gazeteer was still reporting the H&TL to be four-foot-gage in their 1875 report.
Subject Author Posted

49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Ron Keagle December 28, 2011 04:32PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Greg Raven December 28, 2011 05:27PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

James December 28, 2011 07:32PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

george pearce December 28, 2011 07:53PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Brian Norden December 28, 2011 10:07PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Greg Raven December 29, 2011 04:29AM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Chiloquinruss December 29, 2011 10:48AM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Ron Keagle December 29, 2011 11:50AM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

dougvv January 03, 2012 12:55PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Brian Norden January 04, 2012 08:30PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

D&RGW 223 January 05, 2012 08:28AM

Photo

bcp December 28, 2011 08:52PM

Re: Photo

Ron Keagle December 28, 2011 09:29PM

Check the gauge?

bcp December 28, 2011 09:25PM

Re: Check the gauge?

Murph December 29, 2011 01:48PM

Penokee specs Attachments

bcp December 29, 2011 02:44PM

Re: Penokee specs

Ron Keagle December 29, 2011 04:29PM

More Photos

Ron Keagle December 30, 2011 09:12AM

Re: More Photos

bcp December 30, 2011 11:08AM

FLUKE

Ron Keagle December 31, 2011 10:42AM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Brian Norden December 31, 2011 03:26PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

weston1879 December 31, 2011 05:17PM

Re: 49-Inch-Gage By Mistake

Brian Norden December 31, 2011 07:45PM

The Intended Gage

Ron Keagle January 02, 2012 03:52PM

Re: The Intended Gage

Brian Norden January 02, 2012 04:54PM

Annual Report for 1868

bcp January 02, 2012 07:26PM

Re: The Intended Gage Attachments

bcp January 02, 2012 08:36PM

Re: The Intended Gage

Ron Keagle January 02, 2012 08:51PM

Re: The Intended Gage

bcp January 02, 2012 10:13PM

Re: The Intended Gage

Ron Keagle January 03, 2012 02:23PM

Re: The Intended Gage

bcp January 03, 2012 04:14PM

Re: The Intended Gage

Ron Keagle January 04, 2012 03:40PM

Re: The Intended Gage Attachments

bcp January 04, 2012 04:03PM

A Bit of Context

Ron Keagle January 07, 2012 10:34AM

Re: A Bit of Context

bcp January 07, 2012 06:59PM

Re: A Bit of Context

Ron Keagle January 09, 2012 09:36PM

Re: A Bit of Context

Nick January 10, 2012 01:52AM

Re: A Bit of Context Attachments

Ron Keagle January 17, 2012 10:10PM



Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Click here to login