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Re: Two Wooden Trestles Lost - HELP SAVE THE REST??

September 29, 2011 05:33AM avatar
Russo Loco Wrote:
> At this point my main intent was primarily to
> bring this issue to everyone's attention, so that
> it can be properly addressed as a matter of both
> RR Commission and Historic Preservation Board*
> policy, and not just "swept under the rug" by
> choosing the least expensive option without the
> issue being addressed by ALL concerned - including
> us railfans, preservationists and photographers.
>
> It may be, as pointed out by more than one poster,
> that regular inspection and replacement of a few
> timbers per year may be more cost-effective than
> wholesale replacement of trestles by ugly,
> highway-style culverts. It may also be that
> replacement of timber with hollow square steel
> "tubes" would be a compromise - especially in the
> case of the often-photographed "Hangman's" and Los
> Piños trestles. It may be that the only
> affordable solution is to replace ALL of the
> wooden trestles with fills and culverts over the
> next five to ten years - but at least IMHO the
> decision(s) should be made in the light of day,
> perhaps on a trestle-by-trestle basis, with input
> from all those concerned - and not just by the
> "bean counters".
>
> - Russ

In the spirit of compromise, if a trestle can't been seen under normal conditions,(without back packing in miles from a public road for instance) then maybe when it's time is up it should be replaced in the most cost effective way possible. Those trestles which are easily accessible and visable, like those you've mentioned, should be maintained in their historic configurations. All costs aren't just in dollars and cents. Saying bridges ties are much more expensive than they once were doesn’t take into consideration what the loss means historically. What is required is a formal maintenance program designed to extend the longevity of the trestles. The new FRA regulations require an annual inspection and the program would be an extension of that. The Chama coal tipple is a prime example of what an ongoing maintenance program can accomplish.
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Wooden Trestles - To Save or Not To Save . . . eye popping smiley

Russo Loco September 27, 2011 12:33PM

Re: Two Wooden Trestles Lost Already - SAVE THE REST!!

Chuck Doan September 27, 2011 12:44PM

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Rich Murray September 27, 2011 12:50PM

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Russo Loco September 27, 2011 12:58PM

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nedsn3 September 27, 2011 03:35PM

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Tom Stewart September 27, 2011 03:46PM

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nedsn3 September 27, 2011 04:04PM

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Max Cox September 28, 2011 07:31AM

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rehunn September 28, 2011 09:14AM

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Randy Hees October 02, 2011 10:35PM

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Bill Dennehy September 28, 2011 09:42AM

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RichB September 28, 2011 09:50AM

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trainrider47 September 28, 2011 11:42AM

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RichB September 28, 2011 10:09PM

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trainrider47 September 29, 2011 12:15PM

Re: Not Necessarily Culverts

Jim Grigsby September 28, 2011 12:48PM

Re: Not Necessarily Culverts

dougvv September 28, 2011 01:09PM

Thanx for the example!

hank September 28, 2011 10:28AM

Replacement vs. Maintenance

Ron Keagle September 28, 2011 12:00PM

Re: Replacement vs. Maintenance

employee2 September 29, 2011 01:52AM

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Greg Raven September 28, 2011 01:33PM

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rehunn September 28, 2011 05:27PM

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Stewart Rhine September 28, 2011 07:45PM

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Russo Loco September 28, 2011 10:08PM

Re: Two Wooden Trestles Lost - HELP SAVE THE REST??

Rich Murray September 29, 2011 05:33AM

Re: Two Wooden Trestles Lost Already - HELP SAVE THE REST!! Attachments

mikerowe September 28, 2011 10:54PM

Beautiful Trestle

Ron Keagle September 29, 2011 08:38AM

NNG: Goat Canyon Trestle to return to service?

Russo Loco October 01, 2011 03:25PM

Re: NNG: Goat Canyon Trestle to return to service?

mikerowe October 01, 2011 07:56PM

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drgwk37 September 29, 2011 08:14AM

ECONOMIC COMMON SENSE

Ron Keagle September 29, 2011 11:15AM

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Ron Keagle September 30, 2011 10:23AM

Re: 2nd Wooden Trestle Lost . . . Attachments

Russo Loco October 01, 2011 08:17PM

Re: 2nd Wooden Trestle Lost ...

nedsn3 October 01, 2011 10:29PM

Measuring the Cost

Ron Keagle October 02, 2011 08:28AM

Re: Measuring the Cost

Jim Grigsby October 02, 2011 11:40AM

Re: 2nd Wooden Trestle Lost ...

mikerowe October 02, 2011 11:57AM

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Russo Loco October 02, 2011 12:21PM

State SHPOs

mikerowe October 02, 2011 12:51PM

Re: State SHPOs

nedsn3 October 02, 2011 06:46PM

Re: State SHPOs - Help fund repairs? ... Comments??

Russo Loco October 03, 2011 05:35PM

Re: State SHPOs - Help fund repairs? ... Comments??

nedsn3 October 04, 2011 08:16PM

Re: State SHPOs

Russo Loco October 02, 2011 11:07PM

Question:

Ron Keagle October 04, 2011 12:29PM

State Line Location

Rich Muth October 04, 2011 12:36PM

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Ron Keagle October 04, 2011 01:17PM

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Rich Muth October 04, 2011 01:37PM

Re: State Line Location Attachments

Russo Loco October 05, 2011 10:54PM

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Russo Loco October 05, 2011 10:28PM

Re: Question:

hank October 06, 2011 09:30AM

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Ron Keagle October 06, 2011 10:19AM

Commission now aware of trestle/culvert issue

Dick Cowles October 06, 2011 11:40AM

Re: Commission now aware of trestle/culvert issue

drgwk37 October 06, 2011 12:16PM

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Rich Murray October 06, 2011 12:22PM

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Ron Keagle October 06, 2011 12:26PM

Re: Eternal vigilance

Jim Grigsby October 06, 2011 02:52PM

Re: Eternal vigilance

drgwk37 October 06, 2011 02:58PM

Ron's Five Points

Dick Cowles October 06, 2011 03:20PM

UPDATE

Ron Keagle October 06, 2011 05:25PM

Re: Commission now aware of trestle/culvert issue - thumbs upthumbs up

Russo Loco October 06, 2011 11:09PM



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