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Alco K's

October 30, 2001 10:52AM
I seem to recall from way back when, that both Baldwin and Alco bids were considered for the 470 class engines. It may have been a "package" that included a Standard Gauge project as well.
The 470's incorporated several "improvements" over the older Mudhens. Among these were the smokebox mounted airpumps, which were placed there at the D&RGW's request to improve visibility from the Fireman's side. Another interesting change that was quickly corrected, was that the water feed pipes to the injectors were located at the rear corners of the tenders rather than the front corners. This was done to be able to pull water from the entire tank on heavy grades. There were problems with the pipes tending to freeze in Winter conditions, and the water feeds were relocated.
My understanding is that the K-28 type locomotives built for the Oahu all had side mounted airpumps, and kept the rear tender feed pipes till the end.
Another obvious difference was the single visible counterweight on the main driver, which was apparently to counterweight the valve gear and main rods. The siderod counterweights were all located on the wheels, invisible from view, which presents a much different look than any of the Baldwin built K's.
Another, of course, is the rounded corners of the cabs, which may have been typical Alco at the time.
Finally, the K-28's also came with the modern looking coal bunker side sheets. This was a first for "new" Narrow Gauge engines on the D&RGW.
It might also be an interesting question why the D&RGW returned to Baldwin for the 480's. There certainly can't be any question that the Alco-built 470's were successful in every way imaginable.
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D&S #473

Kyle Yates October 24, 2001 08:46AM

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Kenny Ramos October 24, 2001 10:35AM

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John Craft October 24, 2001 11:17AM

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Kyle Yates October 24, 2001 11:39AM

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A C Woodward October 24, 2001 01:53PM

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Earl Knoob October 24, 2001 01:29PM

Re: Out of service

John Vandenberg October 24, 2001 04:43PM

476

Kevin Cook October 24, 2001 05:09PM

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Ryan Scott October 25, 2001 06:28PM

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Duane Richardson October 25, 2001 07:03PM

Re: D&S #473 another tought

Duane Richardson October 25, 2001 07:09PM

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Ryan Scott October 25, 2001 09:00PM

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EL A & W Root Beer October 24, 2001 05:57PM

good while it lasted . . .

John Craft October 25, 2001 05:46AM

Re: good while it lasted . . .

Kyle Yates October 25, 2001 08:36AM

Re: good while it lasted . . .

John Vandenberg October 26, 2001 11:15AM

Fake Stacks

Mike Trent October 26, 2001 11:39AM

Fake Stack Free Zone Here!

Crayuft October 26, 2001 04:30PM

Re: Fake Stack Free Zone Here!

Tom Kneib October 26, 2001 05:15PM

Re: Fake Stack Free Zone Here!

John Craft October 27, 2001 06:02AM

Craft Productions!!

Greg Scholl October 26, 2001 06:54PM

Sell Snakebit Prod. to me!

Crayuft October 27, 2001 06:03AM

Thanks, Crayuft

Mike Trent October 26, 2001 07:34PM

Re: Thanks, Crayuft

Earl Knoob October 26, 2001 10:28PM

478 in 68

Greg Scholl October 27, 2001 07:28AM

Whoops

Greg Scholl October 27, 2001 10:40AM

Real fakes

John West October 27, 2001 10:39AM

Re: Real fakes

Trevor Hartford October 29, 2001 04:21PM

Good Question

Kevin Cook October 29, 2001 04:56PM

Re: Good Question

Scott Green October 30, 2001 07:17AM

Alco K's

Mike Trent October 30, 2001 10:52AM

Re: Alco K's

Ryan Scott October 30, 2001 06:32PM



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