September 01, 2008 05:16PM
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I was afraid this discussion would get ugly and it looks like my fears have been realized. I am going to once again state my view of this issue and then move on to other things. The paint on 489 is wrong and as "Chile John" says, it looks like crap. Personally, I see
no justification to paint it in this fashion-- it adds nothing and detracts from the overall appearance and purpose of the locomotive. Like it or not, the C&TS is and was a museum meant to preserve a part of the D&RGW narrow gauge. It is not an amusement park or carnival ride nor is it Disneyland. That is why SHPO puts strict controls on what happens on the railroad and that is why many of us worked to save it and why we continue to support it. Yes, as John Bush has stated, there were many variations in lettering and the standard diagrams were not always followed. However, the scheme on 489 or the scheme on the boxcar I posted have no basis in history. These schemes are simply the products of someones imagination and I cannot think of any justification for them. These incorrect schemes contribute nothing as opposed to a historically correct scheme. I am as happy as the next person to see this equipment restored and returned to service. However, is it really that difficult to paint and letter the equipment correctly? As for developing some written guidelines or standards-- is it really that difficult to do? There are probably thousands of photographs out there in all sorts of books that show how the equipment was painted and lettered. Bill Kepner mentioned how he and his Friends crew wore out a Narrow Gauge Pictorial book on cabooses as they completed their splendid restoration of 0579. To me, this restoration is evidence of what can be done by doing a little homework. I just don't see why it cannot be done with other projects and equipment.
And am I the only one that feels this way?-- No, I am not. I have received more than a few supportive emails from people who have been following this discussion but are not willing to post here and wade into this mess.
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Bill M. |
August 31, 2008 01:11AM |
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Ed Stabler |
August 31, 2008 05:51AM |
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Chile John |
August 31, 2008 09:27AM |
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Wade Hall |
August 31, 2008 10:53AM |
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John West |
August 31, 2008 12:34PM |
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Jerry Day |
August 31, 2008 01:24PM |
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John West |
August 31, 2008 01:30PM |
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Chile John |
August 31, 2008 01:38PM |
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John West |
September 03, 2008 12:03AM |
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Ed Stabler |
August 31, 2008 01:53PM |
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John West |
August 31, 2008 01:59PM |
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trainrider47 |
August 31, 2008 04:21PM |
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Russo Loco |
August 31, 2008 11:07PM |
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John West |
August 31, 2008 11:38PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 01, 2008 12:33AM |
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hank |
August 31, 2008 02:00PM |
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Roger Hogan |
August 31, 2008 09:26AM |
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Anonymous User |
August 31, 2008 10:48AM |
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Jerry Day |
August 31, 2008 01:25PM |
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John West |
August 31, 2008 02:23PM |
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Jerry Day |
August 31, 2008 05:32PM |
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Bill M. |
August 31, 2008 02:31PM |
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Everett Lueck |
August 31, 2008 04:02PM |
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Roger Hogan |
August 31, 2008 04:40PM |
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John Bush |
September 01, 2008 03:34PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 03:57PM |
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John Bush |
September 01, 2008 04:28PM |
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trainrider47 |
September 01, 2008 06:15PM |
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Rich Muth |
September 01, 2008 07:23PM |
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trainrider47 |
September 01, 2008 07:45PM |
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John Bush |
September 01, 2008 09:14PM |
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Randall Hess |
September 02, 2008 05:49AM |
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Jerry Day |
August 31, 2008 05:33PM |
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drgw0579 |
August 31, 2008 08:04PM |
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hank |
September 01, 2008 11:16AM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 11:49AM |
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hank |
September 01, 2008 11:56AM |
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rod |
September 01, 2008 12:04PM |
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Andrew Brandon |
September 02, 2008 06:56PM |
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Roger Hogan |
August 31, 2008 01:57PM |
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mschur,488 |
August 31, 2008 03:54PM |
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Roger Hogan |
August 31, 2008 04:44PM |
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Bill M. |
August 31, 2008 05:02PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 01, 2008 12:23AM |
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Will Gant |
September 01, 2008 07:29PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 02, 2008 02:13AM |
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Bob G |
August 31, 2008 08:33PM |
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Ed Stabler |
September 01, 2008 05:22AM |
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EBTfan15 |
September 01, 2008 05:50AM |
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Ed Stabler |
September 01, 2008 10:58AM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 12:07PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 12:43PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 12:48PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 01:34PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 01:42PM |
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Chile John |
September 01, 2008 02:52PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 05:52PM |
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trainrider47 |
September 01, 2008 06:26PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 02, 2008 03:14AM |
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Mik |
September 01, 2008 01:59PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 02:26PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 02:44PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 02:48PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 05:54PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 05:57PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 06:30PM |
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trainrider47 |
September 01, 2008 06:48PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 06:50PM |
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Randall Hess |
September 01, 2008 07:12PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 07:35PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 07:33PM |
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Randall Hess |
September 01, 2008 07:29PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 07:35PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 02, 2008 03:40AM |
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Chile John |
September 01, 2008 09:07PM |
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Chile John |
September 01, 2008 03:21PM |
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Mik |
September 01, 2008 02:48PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 02:51PM |
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Mik |
September 01, 2008 03:44PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 02, 2008 04:13AM |
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Ryan Shofner |
September 01, 2008 04:55PM |
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Bill M. |
September 01, 2008 05:16PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 06:03PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 06:37PM |
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Roger Hogan |
September 01, 2008 06:53PM |
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Bob G |
September 01, 2008 07:27PM |
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Chile John |
September 01, 2008 09:41PM |
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Russo Loco |
September 02, 2008 04:36AM |
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Steve Stockham |
September 02, 2008 06:54PM |
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Chile John |
September 03, 2008 08:21AM |
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Fred T |
September 03, 2008 09:14AM |
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Don Richter |
September 03, 2008 09:23AM |
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trainrider47 |
September 01, 2008 06:37PM |
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Jerry Day |
September 01, 2008 06:43PM |
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Randall Hess |
September 01, 2008 07:15PM |
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Randall Hess |
September 02, 2008 05:42AM |
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