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Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

September 26, 2007 04:33PM avatar
Chile John Wrote:
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> "A yard cover of the size we're hearing about, and
> a major Visitor's Center are the kinds of things
> you get one shot at, and one shot only. Thus they
> merit a bit higher level of concern."
>
> You nailed it, Scott. I have dug in my heels on
> certain aspects of both of these items. And I
> won't back off on my opinion until I can be
> convinced that all aspects have been given a
> thorough airing. To date they haven't. My
> internal alarm bells went off when I saw both the
> covered storage and the visitors' center listed as
> agenda items for the upcoming Commission meeting.
> Since there is no amplifying information
> presented, I can only hope that the discussion is
> only to start a dialogue, and that no final
> decision will be made at this time. If that turns
> out not to be the case, I'm going to raise holy
> hell as best I can.
>
> More specifically, and precisely, I would be dead
> set against any new structure which intrudes in
> any manner with the existing yard tracks. There
> are alternatives.First, there has been a great
> deal of discussion the last few days concerning
> buying and utilizing the land at the old sawmill
> site. I think that this would be workable, but
> difficult due to potential complications which
> have been discussed.
>
> I know that I will get fried for saying this, but
> I think the covered storage more properly could be
> in Antonito, and would be to protect the revenue
> producing passenger cars and accessible to the car
> repair facilities over there. Yeah, I know -
> blasphemy !!! But hey, we don't have the
> resources to protect everything, so some tough
> choices will have to be made. That being said, I
> strongly suggest that it be left up to the FRIENDS
> to keep up their good work on the historic
> equipment. Theoretically, the FRIENDS should not
> be responsible for maintenance of revenue
> equipment. That belongs with the operator, in my
> estimation.
>
> If a second covered area becomes feasible, then it
> might be feasible to add a couple of yard tracks
> down where the oil distribution facility used to
> be. I think that the area might be enough lower
> to not intrude on the historic yard area.
>
> Which brings up a question in my mind. It is my
> understanding that the historic status of the C&TS
> was recently upgraded. My question is this: What
> is included, geographically? Is it only specified
> buildings, or is it a geographic area and all the
> structures contained within the boundaries? If it
> is the latter, then how can a structure, like the
> car storage, or even the visitors' center be
> plopped down in the middle without running the
> risk of compromising the historical status and
> potential running afoul of the governing history
> gurus, not only on the state, but also the federal
> level?
>
> Now, following up on Dick Cowles' comments as
> regards the shop area lights, I share his concerns
> and displeasure. But beyond that (and here I'm
> going to share a long standing gripe of mine), I
> never have liked the design of the shop addition,
> as badly needed as it was. There had to have been
> a better alternative. But the shop, plus the
> lights, are prime examples how the historical
> value of the C&TS can be chipped away a brick at a
> time. Do we need to perpetuate this attitude? I
> think not.
>
> Let's see - where do I store this soapbox?
>
> CJ


Hi John

"I can only hope that the discussion is only to start a dialogue, and that no final decision will be made at this time. If that turns out not to be the case, I'm going to raise holy hell as best I can."

Item F. on the agenda

Approval of Friends Interpretative/Visitor Center


Looks to me like it is a action item to be approved or disapproved.
Subject Author Posted

An open Letter

DRGW489 September 24, 2007 11:01PM

Re: An open Letter

Don Richter September 25, 2007 03:06AM

Re: An open Letter

WilliamDiehl September 25, 2007 04:24AM

Re: An open Letter

John Cole September 25, 2007 07:38AM

Re: An open Letter

Don Richter September 25, 2007 08:49AM

Re: An open Letter

Curtis_F September 25, 2007 04:41PM

Re: An open Letter

Don Richter September 25, 2007 05:25PM

Re: An open Letter

Curtis_F September 25, 2007 06:05PM

Re: An open Letter

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 07:42PM

Re: An open Letter

Linn W. Moedinger September 25, 2007 05:28AM

Re: An open Letter

John Bush September 25, 2007 07:50AM

Re: An open Letter

Robin Warren September 25, 2007 07:54AM

Re: An open Letter

Kim Casford September 25, 2007 08:34AM

Re: An open Letter

Chile John September 25, 2007 09:46AM

Re: An open Letter

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 07:38PM

An open Letter

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 09:52AM

Re: An open Letter

Robin Warren September 25, 2007 10:49AM

Re: An open Letter

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 10:55AM

Re: An open Letter

John Craft September 25, 2007 10:41AM

Re: An open Letter

Eric Bolton September 25, 2007 11:04AM

Re: Funding

DRGW489 September 25, 2007 01:51PM

Re: Funding

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 02:37PM

An open letter

colfranks September 25, 2007 06:44PM

Re: An open Letter

Coyote September 25, 2007 03:25PM

A question..

Robin Warren September 25, 2007 03:55PM

Re: An open Letter

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 04:24PM

Roger, I am getting "quoted" on something I didn't say

John Cole September 25, 2007 05:31PM

Re: 1 word...

DRGW489 September 25, 2007 05:41PM

Re: 1 word...

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 07:47PM

Re: 1 word...

DRGW489 September 25, 2007 08:03PM

Re: 1 word...

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 08:18PM

Re: Roger, I am getting "quoted" on something I didn't say

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 07:44PM

Re: An open Letter

Coyote September 25, 2007 07:39PM

Re: An open Letter

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 08:20PM

Use of Eminent Domain Power

Anonymous User September 25, 2007 08:56PM

Use of Eminent Domain Power

Roger Hogan September 25, 2007 09:03PM

Re: Use of Eminent Domain Power

Anonymous User September 25, 2007 09:24PM

Re: An open Letter

hogger42 September 26, 2007 07:32AM

Re: An open Letter

drgw0579 September 26, 2007 08:13AM

Re: An open Letter

John Cole September 26, 2007 10:38AM

Re: An open Letter

Chile John September 26, 2007 08:19AM

Re: The Friends BoD, the States, or the Commission??

Russo Loco September 26, 2007 02:14PM

A visionary proposal

John West September 25, 2007 09:06PM

Re: Where and What to Build

Dick Cowles September 26, 2007 12:33PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Scott Turner September 26, 2007 01:12PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

John Cole September 26, 2007 01:34PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Dick Cowles September 26, 2007 01:40PM

Dick Cowles did it

Roger Hogan September 26, 2007 01:52PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

John Craft September 26, 2007 01:59PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Don Richter September 26, 2007 02:21PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Dick Cowles September 26, 2007 03:01PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Roger Hogan September 26, 2007 03:05PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

John Cole September 26, 2007 03:46PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Scott Turner September 26, 2007 04:09PM

Re: Cole should add "Those Lights" to his telegraph line ... winking smiley

Russo Loco September 26, 2007 03:13PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Chile John September 26, 2007 02:16PM

Re: Those lights vs the visitor's center

Roger Hogan September 26, 2007 04:33PM

Action Items

Chris Callaway September 26, 2007 05:27PM

Re: Action Items

Chile John September 26, 2007 05:35PM

Re: Action Items

John Cole September 26, 2007 06:21PM

Re: Action Items

Chile John September 26, 2007 06:32PM

Re: Where and What to Build

John Bush September 26, 2007 07:28PM

Re: Where and What to Build

dougvv September 26, 2007 07:42PM

Re: Where and What to Build

DRGW489 September 26, 2007 07:50PM

Re: Where and What to Build

John Cole September 26, 2007 10:26PM

Sprinklers and Roofs

Chris Callaway September 26, 2007 09:53PM

Re: An [EXCELLENT] open Letter - and some great responses!

Russo Loco September 26, 2007 01:26PM



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