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BillD

August 07, 2007 08:27AM

Registered: 16 years ago
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George, I think that's exactly the answer. Anyways, the names on the tenders and cars are just paint... and are ephemeral. It's the pride that shows itself in how well the equipment and physical plant is maintained, how professional the management, employees and crews do their job, and how Chama and Antonito have embraced the entire operation. I, for one, do not care if the water tanks are lettered "Rio Grande" or "Cumbres and Toltec"... (I draw the line at lettering them "Union Pacific" though...) it's the total experience that makes the entire operation worthwhile, and makes me want to come back time and again...

Bill Daniels
Tucson, AZ

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Subject	Author	Posted
Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 06, 2007 10:31AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 06, 2007 10:37AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 06, 2007 11:17AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Ryan Shofner	August 06, 2007 11:22AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Chile John	August 06, 2007 11:34AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Don Richter	August 06, 2007 12:28PM
It's really very simple.....	John West	August 06, 2007 01:38PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	HOD Bill	August 06, 2007 02:58PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	Fred T	August 06, 2007 04:41PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	Randall Hess	August 06, 2007 04:58PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	geode	August 06, 2007 06:40PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	Mark Valerius	August 06, 2007 03:59PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	geode	August 06, 2007 06:35PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	Don Richter	August 06, 2007 07:05PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	John Craft	August 07, 2007 05:21AM
Re: It's really very simple.....	geode	August 07, 2007 07:49AM
Re: It's really very simple.....	BillD	August 06, 2007 07:07PM
Sorry for the hand grenades....	John West	August 06, 2007 07:19PM
Re: Sorry for the hand grenades....	Earl	August 06, 2007 07:26PM
Re: Sorry for the hand grenades....	HOD Bill	August 06, 2007 07:32PM
GREEN BOILER JACKETS?	John West	August 06, 2007 10:06PM
GEEEN BOILER JACKETS!	Don Richter	August 07, 2007 08:57AM
Re: GEEEN BOILER JACKETS!	geode	August 07, 2007 09:03AM
Re: GEEEN BOILER JACKETS! Maybe...	Al Patterson	August 15, 2007 04:33PM
Re: GEEEN BOILER JACKETS! Maybe...	Herb Kelsey	August 15, 2007 05:06PM
C&TS "history" and such stuff	Mark Valerius	August 07, 2007 09:55AM
Brand management	John West	August 07, 2007 11:08AM
Re: Brand management-Time for change?	Mark Valerius	August 08, 2007 09:41AM
Re: Brand management-Time for change?	Don Richter	August 08, 2007 09:55AM
Alternate paint schemes	John West	August 08, 2007 05:09PM
Re: Alternate paint schemes	BillD	August 08, 2007 05:41PM
Re: Brand management-Time for change?	Fred T	August 08, 2007 11:31AM
Re: Brand management-Time for change?	Bob Meckley	August 08, 2007 12:35PM
Re: Brand management-Time for change?	Mark Valerius	August 08, 2007 12:47PM
Re: Brand management-Time for change?	geode	August 08, 2007 01:42PM
2 questions for Earl	Randall Hess	August 08, 2007 08:52PM
Re: 2 questions for Earl	Earl	August 13, 2007 07:39PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	Roger Hogan	August 06, 2007 06:45PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	HOD Bill	August 06, 2007 07:07PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	davegrandt	August 07, 2007 03:11PM
Re: It's really very simple.....	Bob Meckley	August 07, 2007 08:05AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Chile John	August 06, 2007 04:23PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	hank	August 07, 2007 08:35AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Randall Hess	August 06, 2007 04:47PM
Fix the Clock (please)	Randall Hess	August 06, 2007 04:48PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 06, 2007 05:37PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	jessica stacey	August 06, 2007 06:11PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 06, 2007 07:05PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Randall Hess	August 06, 2007 07:18PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	jessica stacey	August 06, 2007 08:09PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 06, 2007 06:08PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Randall Hess	August 06, 2007 07:10PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	HOD Bill	August 06, 2007 07:16PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Randall Hess	August 06, 2007 07:20PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 06, 2007 07:26PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	WilliamDiehl	August 07, 2007 05:38AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	John Sporseen	August 07, 2007 09:17AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	rod	August 06, 2007 09:25PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 07, 2007 04:47AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	BillD	August 07, 2007 08:27AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 07, 2007 08:59AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 10, 2007 04:23PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 10, 2007 07:25PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 10, 2007 07:29PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 13, 2007 02:22PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 13, 2007 02:26PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	John Bush	August 13, 2007 02:51PM
Employee pride and other stuff	John West	August 13, 2007 03:32PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	rick_b	August 13, 2007 04:15PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Jack Campbell	August 13, 2007 06:50PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Fred T	August 13, 2007 10:36PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	rick_b	August 15, 2007 10:14AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 15, 2007 04:22PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	John Bush	August 13, 2007 08:06PM
Can a railroad be a museum?	John West	August 13, 2007 09:27PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	rod	August 13, 2007 11:58PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	geode	August 14, 2007 08:27AM
Re: Railfans and paying	Scott Turner	August 14, 2007 08:57AM
Re: Railfans and paying	geode	August 15, 2007 08:52AM
Re: Railfans and paying	Scott Turner	August 15, 2007 09:51AM
Re: Railfans and paying	Chris A. Jackson	August 15, 2007 02:07PM
Huh?	Mark Valerius	August 15, 2007 02:46PM
Re: Huh?	HOD Bill	August 15, 2007 03:11PM
Re: Huh?	Mark Valerius	August 15, 2007 03:52PM
Re: Huh?	Chris A. Jackson	August 15, 2007 03:51PM
deleted by poster	Mark Valerius	August 15, 2007 04:19PM
Re: Railfans and paying	Don Richter	August 15, 2007 03:54PM
Re: Railfans and paying	Chris A. Jackson	August 15, 2007 04:22PM
Re: Railfans and paying	Chris A. Jackson	August 15, 2007 04:57PM
Check your private messages.	Don Richter	August 15, 2007 05:09PM
Just for the Record.......	Mike Trent	August 15, 2007 05:07PM
Bad guys	John West	August 15, 2007 05:08PM
Re: Bad guys	wde3rd	August 15, 2007 09:22PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	michael	August 14, 2007 10:29AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	Scott Turner	August 14, 2007 10:56AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	HOD Bill	August 14, 2007 11:15AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	geode	August 14, 2007 11:53AM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	wde3rd	August 14, 2007 06:44PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	Randall Hess	August 14, 2007 07:57PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	John Bush	August 14, 2007 08:58PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	John West	August 14, 2007 10:29PM
Re: From a marketing perspective	Scott Turner	August 15, 2007 09:10AM
Re: From a marketing perspective	rick_b	August 17, 2007 02:32AM
Re: From a marketing perspective	Randall Hess	August 17, 2007 07:47PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec = Rio Grande	Randall Hess	August 15, 2007 06:54PM
Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	Scott Turner	August 14, 2007 08:26AM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	geode	August 14, 2007 08:33AM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	michael	August 14, 2007 10:28AM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	John Bush	August 14, 2007 02:25PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	michael	August 14, 2007 02:54PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	Mark Valerius	August 14, 2007 03:13PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	Anonymous User	August 14, 2007 04:06PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	michael	August 14, 2007 05:02PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	michael	August 15, 2007 08:16PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	John West	August 15, 2007 08:47PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	Randall Hess	August 15, 2007 08:56PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	ROW Explorer	August 15, 2007 10:40PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	ROW Explorer	August 15, 2007 10:50PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	michael	August 16, 2007 07:03AM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	Scott Turner	August 16, 2007 08:41AM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463	michael	August 16, 2007 04:09PM
Re: No worries Michael...	Scott Turner	August 16, 2007 04:31PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463 cab windows	John Bush	August 16, 2007 09:35AM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463 cab windows	Anonymous User	August 16, 2007 11:43AM
Speaking of Cimarron	Festus	August 16, 2007 12:58PM
Re: Flying Cumbres & Toltec - 463 cab windows	ROW Explorer	August 16, 2007 07:51PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	michael	August 14, 2007 05:32PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	geode	August 15, 2007 01:22PM
Re: Cumbres & Toltec	Herb Kelsey	August 16, 2007 01:29PM
340	Festus	August 16, 2007 02:47PM

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