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Re: 223 Fire Update

March 13, 2006 04:48PM
I received the following email from Maynard Morris about the 223 fire. During 223's D&RGW career, it survived two fires (Salida roundhouse and Gunnison roundhouse). How ironic that it seems to have survived a third fire.
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The Shupp Williams candy factory building was at least 100 years old. It was a large brick four story building that has been out of use for some time.
There have been a lot of dicussions lately with what to do with it since somehow Ogden City owned it. A musuem group wanted to make a musuem out of it but the city just wanted them to go away. All a matter of money. At
about 2100, the build alarm was activated and the building was checked out from the outside with no easily visible entry points noted. The building sets next to a flop house and transients are a real problem in the area. No
one went inside to check out the alarm. About 30 minutes later the fire alarms started going off and the Fire department responded. Someone made the decision to let the building burn and the Fire department pulled back for a perimeter protection. Behind the building on the West side we had a fenced in compound with 223 and three railcars inside. The building turned
into an inferno since nothing was being done to control the burn.
Initially, there was a fire hose in the back spraying down the railroad equipment but then the buildings across the street were being threatened. The rear hose was shut down and moved to the front or side. The following
is conjecture. It was at this time the flying sparks set the caboose on fire. This then burned and set a boxcar on fire that was coupled to it. The boxcar had a metal roof so it was immune from sparks from the top. The metal top is tilted away from the fire which seems to indicate the car burned initially from the side away from the building fire. Another car, a
gondola burned only on the end next to the boxcar. It was on another set of tracks. The side of this car facing the building was not scourched so the danger was not radient heat but flying embers from the timbers in the candy
factory. I won't know about 223 untill I can get into our compound. But I suspect most of the heat went right over the engine and since all wood had been removed from the engine, burning embers had little effect on the steel
boiler.
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223 Fire

Jerry Day March 12, 2006 10:52AM

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Brian Norden March 12, 2006 12:20PM

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Dick March 12, 2006 12:43PM

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Jerry Day March 12, 2006 01:25PM

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Dave S. March 12, 2006 02:50PM

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Jerry Day March 12, 2006 07:53PM

Re: 223 Fire Update

Jerry Day March 13, 2006 04:48PM

Re: 223 Fire Update - Thanks for update *NM*

Ken S. March 13, 2006 08:19PM

Three Cheers for the City government

George Gaskill March 14, 2006 12:12PM

Re: Three Cheers for the City government

George Gaskill March 14, 2006 12:14PM

Re: Three Cheers for the City government

stuart olson March 15, 2006 07:09PM

Re: 223 Fire--What was Short Caboose #?

PRSL March 17, 2006 07:44AM

0573 I think *NM*

Josh McNeal March 17, 2006 08:00AM

0573 I think

Josh McNeal March 17, 2006 08:02AM

Re: 0573 I think

John Cole March 17, 2006 08:37AM

Re: 0573 I think

J. B. Bowers March 17, 2006 10:13AM

Re: 223 Fire--What was Short Caboose #?

Stephen Smith March 17, 2006 01:31PM

Re: 223 Fire--What was Short Caboose #?

Steve Stockham March 17, 2006 03:34PM

Re: 223 Fire--What was Short Caboose #?

J. B. Bowers March 17, 2006 10:19PM

Yes!

Josh McNeal March 19, 2006 05:22PM

Re: Yes!

Jim B. March 20, 2006 12:52AM

Re: Yes!

George Gaskill March 21, 2006 12:36PM

Re: Yes!

Burr Hubbell March 20, 2006 12:20PM

Oops, fires are accidental.

Josh McNeal March 20, 2006 03:05PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

J. B. Bowers March 20, 2006 03:45PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

PRSL March 20, 2006 04:05PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Burr Hubbell March 20, 2006 07:10PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Dave Bates March 21, 2006 08:16AM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Burr Hubbell March 21, 2006 09:36AM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Dave Bates March 21, 2006 12:58PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

John Kyler March 21, 2006 07:39PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Steve Stockham March 21, 2006 08:56AM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Burr Hubbell March 21, 2006 10:15AM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Steve Stockham March 21, 2006 01:30PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Chris Webster March 21, 2006 06:24PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Steve Stockham March 21, 2006 07:16PM

Re: Oops, fires are accidental.

Don Richter March 21, 2006 09:31AM

I agree

Josh McNeal March 20, 2006 04:07PM

Re: I agree

J.B.Bane March 20, 2006 05:16PM

Re: I agree

J. B. Bowers March 20, 2006 11:07PM

Re: I agree

PRSL March 21, 2006 08:41AM

Re: I agree

J.B.Bane March 21, 2006 10:12AM

Re: the fire

Ted Miles March 21, 2006 11:03AM

other NG stuff in UT

Josh McNeal March 21, 2006 01:47PM

Re: other NG stuff in UT

Gordon Reynolds March 21, 2006 02:25PM

Oregon Bound... *LINK*

Taylor Rush March 21, 2006 07:11PM

Re: Oregon Bound...

Gordon Reynolds March 22, 2006 06:30AM

Re: Oregon Bound...

Taylor Rush March 22, 2006 08:53AM

Re: I agree

Chris Webster March 21, 2006 06:22PM

Re: I agree

Steve Stockham March 21, 2006 07:24PM

Re: I agree

Chile John March 22, 2006 09:12AM



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