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Re: Extra sections

November 20, 2004 03:50PM
A common misconception is that the timetable schedule actually applied to a certain train or another. As you have correctly pointed out, the schedules could be applied to any movement. The dispatcher could and would hang green signals on the head end of a freight train and run it as the first section of a streamlined passenger train if the said passenger train was running late. Easier than making it an extra in many cases. It was prudent to notify opposing trains of the first section's engine number, just to be safe. This could be done with a message rather than a train order ie: "First 21 has engine 9044" ....
A great book for those interesred in traditional train operations is "The Rights of Trains.." can't remember the author's name but he was a Chief Dispatcher on the Western Pacific. You might find a copy of the book at a used book store or on the internet. I read once that if the dispatcher wanted to run a motor car (track crew) as the 20th Century Limited, he could do so with a clearance and orders and putting a set of markers on the rear of the motor car. This is true.
I would suggest that the lack of white signals on the Farmington Branch and others in the waning years was probably due to the railroad's redefining the branches as Yard Limits. This was a common occurence in later years on many lines - train orders were no longer needed, easing the busy dispatcher's job, especially when only one train at a time was likely to be out on the branch and speed limits were low. I don't have a Rio Grande timetable handy, but would guess that was the case.
Skip Luke
former dispatcher, IC RR, White Pass & Yukon, and Burlington Northern. Engineer, GL RR.
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Marker/Class Lamps

Stevo del Applegato November 16, 2004 09:57PM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps

Jeff Osborne November 16, 2004 10:05PM

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earl November 18, 2004 08:41AM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps

Stevo del Applegato November 18, 2004 02:14PM

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Ron Keiser November 19, 2004 08:18AM

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John Hillier November 19, 2004 09:31AM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps...a diatribe

John West November 19, 2004 10:05AM

Re: Class Lamps

Stevo del Applegato November 19, 2004 11:12AM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps...a diatribe

Herb Kelsey November 19, 2004 03:39PM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps...a diatribe

Stevo del Applegato November 19, 2004 03:48PM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps...a digression

Paul Gibbs November 20, 2004 04:36PM

More trivia

John West November 19, 2004 05:22PM

Re: More trivia

Herb Kelsey November 19, 2004 06:43PM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps...a diatribe

Dan Robirds November 20, 2004 11:39AM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps...a diatribe

Glen Brewer November 20, 2004 12:29PM

Extra sections

John West November 20, 2004 12:50PM

Re: Extra sections

Dan Robirds November 20, 2004 01:29PM

Re: Extra sections

Skip Luke November 20, 2004 03:50PM

Re: Extra sections

Dan Robirds November 20, 2004 06:48PM

Re: Extra sections

Skip Luke November 22, 2004 12:29PM

Re: Extra sections

John West November 21, 2004 10:59AM

Re: Extra sections

Dan Robirds November 21, 2004 12:03PM

First class piggyback trains

John West November 21, 2004 12:13PM

Re: 1st Class Pigs

Skip Luke November 22, 2004 12:32PM

Other than train orders?

Dan Robirds November 21, 2004 12:09PM

Re: Other than train orders?

Skip Luke November 22, 2004 12:46PM

Re: Other than train orders?

Dan Robirds November 23, 2004 01:06PM

Timetable authority

Dick Seelye November 24, 2004 01:37AM

Re: Timetable authority

Skip Luke November 27, 2004 06:10PM

Yard limits

John West November 20, 2004 12:36PM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps

Ron Keiser November 20, 2004 01:24AM

Re: Marker/Class Lamps

John Hillier November 20, 2004 01:39AM



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