Re: 168 & 425 Double over Lobato

Chris Walker Wrote:
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> Earl Wrote:
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> > The timetable rule says engines don't
> doublehead
> > across the two trestles. There is no provision
> > for keeping smaller engines together.
> >
> > Rules are Rules.
>
> Funny that Earl,
>
> I once got severely chastised verbally by
> management for delaying a detouring Passenger
> train for over 40 minutes, the time it took the
> OCTR ("management" aka Officer Controlling Train
> Running: a God among men) to realise his mistake
> in not authorising the assigned heavy locomotive
> to work that line. The fact that the OCTR had
> skived off during his shift and couldn't be found
> by Train Control didn't help their cause either
>
> Ha no further action was taken after I pointed out
> I was the least qualified and the 5 others up the
> food chain should have known better.....but they
> didn't, hehe!
> It wasn't often one could stick the finger in the
> bosses face and he couldn't do nothing about
> it.
>
> So an educated guess is that C&TS management came
> up with that Rule way back when they had nothing
> else than -36's in service.
>
> D&RGW didn't prohibit the use of two engines
> together until ETT123 1944, previous ETT's setting
> Speed restrictions of all K class to 10 mph.
> (Lobato and Cascade)
>
> [attachment 77007 Rule.JPG]
>
>
> What happened to thinking outside of the box to
> avoid delaying trains? or even applying logic to
> their operations?
>
> Is it keeping with a "tradition", one mistakenly
> applied? Do one thing but not another?
>
>
> So, just what does a K-36 weigh?
>
> Weight of engine and tender loaded(D&RGW Folio
> Sheets)
> T-12 107,400lbs
> C-18 129,000lbs
> K-27 223,550lbs
> K-36 286,600lbs
> K-37 307,250lbs
>
> "425"+168 = 236,400lbs or 25 Tons less
> than a solitary K-36
>
> Looks like it is time for a Rules Review this
> coming Winter.


Around 1960 the time table rule was changed prohibiting ANY doubleheading across the two trestles. This rule was carried forward by the C&TS.