Re: What "LF" probably signifies on a Gramps tank car . . . 
| June 25, 2021 06:52PM |
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Coloradokid Wrote:
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> When I initially suggested Flammable Liquid, a few
> thoughts came to mind...
>
> 1. The L followed by a period (.) and F seemed to
> suggest two distinct abbreviations. Note there is
> no period (.) after the letter F.
> 2. This may have been an early form of what is
> commonly known today as an MSDS (Material
> Safety Data Sheet) or SDS as required by OSHA.
> 3. The L would signify the physical properties of
> the product transported, while the F would signify
> the risk associated with the product transported.
> 4. Placards would be placed on cars at or near
> ground level; however, workers on a loading/un-
> loading dock wouldn't necessarily have a clear
> view of the placards to understand what they're
> handling. Some sort of visual indicator would
> be required near the dome for notification and
> safe handling of the product.
Rick Steele Wrote:
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> How about "L" for Light Crude, "F" for Flammable?
AH-HA! Combining these two educated guesses makes for one reasonable explanation -
The GRAMPS cars are to be loaded only with Light Crude, and it is Flammable.
OTOH, one would expect the same information on the domes of the other frameless cars – whether or not leased directly to Hughes – and on the narrow-frame cars as well, as they were also used only to transport Flammable Light Crude from Chama to Alamosa. Is there any evidence of this on the surviving non-GRAMPS tank cars?
- El Abuelo Histœrico, Greengo y Curmudgeoño de los Locomoturas Viejos y Verdes,
aka Der Grossväterlich DünkelOlivGrünDampfKesselMantelLiebHabender
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> When I initially suggested Flammable Liquid, a few
> thoughts came to mind...
>
> 1. The L followed by a period (.) and F seemed to
> suggest two distinct abbreviations. Note there is
> no period (.) after the letter F.
> 2. This may have been an early form of what is
> commonly known today as an MSDS (Material
> Safety Data Sheet) or SDS as required by OSHA.
> 3. The L would signify the physical properties of
> the product transported, while the F would signify
> the risk associated with the product transported.
> 4. Placards would be placed on cars at or near
> ground level; however, workers on a loading/un-
> loading dock wouldn't necessarily have a clear
> view of the placards to understand what they're
> handling. Some sort of visual indicator would
> be required near the dome for notification and
> safe handling of the product.
Rick Steele Wrote:
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> How about "L" for Light Crude, "F" for Flammable?
AH-HA! Combining these two educated guesses makes for one reasonable explanation -
The GRAMPS cars are to be loaded only with Light Crude, and it is Flammable.
OTOH, one would expect the same information on the domes of the other frameless cars – whether or not leased directly to Hughes – and on the narrow-frame cars as well, as they were also used only to transport Flammable Light Crude from Chama to Alamosa. Is there any evidence of this on the surviving non-GRAMPS tank cars?
- El Abuelo Histœrico, Greengo y Curmudgeoño de los Locomoturas Viejos y Verdes,
aka Der Grossväterlich DünkelOlivGrünDampfKesselMantelLiebHabender
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