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Re: Boreas Pass

January 24, 2004 11:35PM
There is one likely genuine C&S boxcar and one fake at Breckenridge.
BTW it probably didn't have an end door on the WP&YR, the C&S boxes that came north didn't have that feature.
According to WP&Y historical researcher Robert Hilton:
ex C&S boxcar 8323 went to the WP&Y as a boxcar in 43. In the 50s or 60s it was cut down to flatcar 783. It went back to the lower 48 and has been rebuilt into a boxcar, C&S 8323, which is in Breckenridge, Colorado.
There is another C&S-type flat car which was rebuilt into a boxcar at Breckenridge, C&S 8311, but that is provable as a phony number by the kind of coupler pockets on it. In identifying ex-C&S cars, note the different kinds of coupler pockets. The C&S SUF refrigerator cars had a unique coupler pocket from all the others. Also, the other C&S SUF cars made in 1909 had a different coupler pocket from the C&S SUF cars made in 1910. That is how you can tell that 8311 in Breckenridge is a fake number. The real 8311 was made in 1910, and the fake 8311 has a 1909 coupler pocket. RH
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Boreas Pass

T.W.Shirley January 24, 2004 08:29PM

Re: Boreas Pass

WP&Ymike January 24, 2004 11:35PM



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