Re: The first three pix....

John West Wrote:
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> ...have really interesting lighting. Phantom Curve
> is a fascinating place, and rarely photographed
> (well) because it is hard to get to (off the
> train, anyway) and trains are rarely there when
> the light is good. Those first three pix are an
> inspiration.
>
> JBWX

John, it seems to me there are about 5 ways to shoot this location.

(1) Where Roger was.
(2) Closer, where you can the train passing the pinnacle rock(my first choice, but the light would be worse on the train)
(3) Eastbound coming out of the cut where the pinnacle is(where Rogers first shot is, but going the other way.
(4) Up high along the mountain going east
(5) Up high along the rim looking down above where Roger Stood.

I saw some shots I think that were taken by Jeff Stebbins of the first train in 1968 from up high showing Phantom curve. This would have been the train you shot May 28th. Thought the images were awesome from that view point.

As you say its tough due to the sun angles, but the pinnacle rock makes this a treasure of a spot on the C&TS in my opinion!
Greg Scholl

PS Next time Roger try to get more of the pinnacle rock, or maybe try it the other direction. I did this once on the Craft trip in 1992, and it was tough to shoot cause we were too close to the pinnacle. We could see across the curve where Roger was standing as the train approached.