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D&RGW C-18 sisters

April 13, 2010 08:06PM
Here are a couple of items I need help with to put some finishing touches to the book about D&RGW 315.

1. I have a set of photos showing both sides of each of the sister engines except 320. I have photos of the right side and of it wrecked from James Ehernberger and CRRM, but have been unable to find any photo of the LEFT side of 320. Can anyone help?

2. Using Grandt's two books on locomotive pictorials and a handful of photos from CRRM acquired to create a set of L and R photos of the C-18s, I examined them carefully to create a table of changes in features over their years on D&RGW and between them. The table is attached. I would appreciate people reviewing and seeing what else can added to improve the table. We have about a month, maybe slightly longer to polish the table before it needs to be locked up for the printer.
Table 43. D&RGW C-18 Differences

Observations from sample photographs – not an exhaustive survey.

Pilot 315: shorter than coupler, about 18 inches long
316–320: longer than coupler, about 10 inches longer than on 315
318: changed to shorter sometime between 1939–1946
Flanger 315: from 1939 to July 1941, with air cylinder on deck center
315: after 1942, from March 1945 to 1949; air cylinder on deck to left rear
316: in 1935, 1937, 1942, but not 1939; air cylinder on deck center/
317, 319, 320: none
318: off and on over the years; air cylinder on deck to left rear
No. plate 315 and 320: round; 316–319: rectangular
Smokebox 315, 319, 320: short, 43 inches
316: short, but slightly longer than on 315
317: medium length
318: long, 68 inches
Door cogs 315, 316: double the number of cogs on 317–320
Headlight 315: cylindrical; visor except 1937–39
316: cylindrical; visor except 1937; platform on smokebox front at top
317: square until 1937, then cylindrical, no visor
318: cylindrical; visor always
319: square until 1936, cylindrical from 1939; visor always
320: square
Stack 315: straight tapered rolled until February 1945; contoured cast afterwards
316–320: contoured cast always
Builder plate 315: none on either side always
316, 318: on both sides always
317: on left side always; on right side never
319: on left side never; on right side no in 1936, yes in 1950
320: on right side in 1933
Cylinder 315: to middle of boiler in front of cylinder
cock rod 316, 317: to bottom of boiler behind cylinder
318, 319: to top of saddle in front of cylinder (318 had extra large ball on bell tongue)
320: to a few inches above saddle in front of cylinder
Sand heater 315: yes to 1941, no after
316–320: yes to about 1936or 1937, no after
Bell ringer 315: yes in 1932 and after
316: no from 1935–39
317–319: yes from around 1935–37
320: no in 1933
Anti-roll bar 315: yes from 1932–37, no in 1938, yes from 1939
316: no form 1935–39
317–319: yes from around 1935–37
320: no in 1933
Steam dome 315, 317–320: standard Baldwin cast base and top with sheet metal side
& sand box 316: one smooth hemisphere topped cylinder as a unit (1917 repair)
Check valves 315, 316: spherical
317, 319: cylindrical, no handles; 320: cylindrical on left side, no handle
318: cylindrical, handles
Fire hose 315: yes in 1933, under left running board forward of compressors
316, 317, 319, 320: none
318: under right cab floor, forward of auxiliary air reservoir
319: not found in photos, but 1948 Mechanical Dept. report declared so
Sanders 315: front and rear from 1932 onward
316: front only
317: front only; air line in front of sandbox
318: front and rear from 1937 onward
319: front only 1936–39, front and rear in 1942, front only 1946 and after
Main reservoir 315, 316, 319, 320: under left running board
317, 318: not on engine – extra large reservoir on tender
Main rod 315: both sides strap until 1945, then left side solid; no safety guard
316–320: both sides strap always; safety guard both sides
Whistle 315: 5-chime in 1932, plain in 1933, 5-chime 1937–41, plain from 1942
316–320: various, small, medium, and large plain, 5-chime
Auxiliary air reservoir 315–320: always under right cab floor, towards rear
Front window 315–317: single pane always; 320 single pane in 1933
318–319: two pane, vertical sash
Side window 315–320: four pane always
Front door 315–320: three pane with middle louver always
Rear door 315: four pane 1940; two pane, horizontal sash 1945–49
316: four pane 1939
317: two pane horizontal sash May 1937; four pane June 1947
318: two pane horizontal sash always
319: four pane always
Cab side 315, 316, 320: metal sheet in all photos
317–319: no metal sheet in all photos
Ventilator 315: hinged cover at cab center 1932–50; half cylinder hood in 1933
316: hinged cover at cab center in all photos
317: hinged cover at cab rear wall in all photos
318: hinged cover to rear of cab center (because 318 had three internal carlines that divided the ceiling into four sections, whereas 315 had two carlines and three sections); half cylinder hood from about 1951–52
319: sliding hatch cover; half cylinder hood in 1936
320: half cylinder hood in 1933
Roof conduit 315: along center and right side; junction box below front eave, left of center
316: along front center only; fuse box below front eave, left of center
317: none on roof; junction box below front eave, at center
318: along center and right side; junction or fuse box below front eave, at center
319: along center and right side; fuse box below front eave, left of center
320: none of roof on right side
Rain gutter 315, 316, 318, 320: over sliding side windows (rear half of cab)
317, 319: full length of cab side
Cab curtains 315–320: usually only seasonal, when required by weather
Tool box 315: medium box on right running board behind main reservoir 1945-46
316, 318, 320: none visible
317: large box across deck in front of smokebox in 1937–38; a strange box centered on left side of smokebox directly below smokestack about 1949
319: on stand across deck in front of smokebox and medium box in front of cab on left side during 1936–40; medium box on right running board behind main reservoir 19__
Other 316: a 2 x 2-foor square of about 1/2 x 2-inch strap iron hung from left side of pilot deck
316: Snowplow
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D&RGW C-18 sisters

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