Dan, I didn't mean they had to give any information. Just tell us that X date is tenentive date for This run. Conditions etc will be posted later. I can't change my Vacation in March or maybe some one has that week picked after I pick my weeks. I can handle it, if they cancel the trip. I don't think I'm the only one in this position. 1 plant near here, you have to have your vacation request in Nov 15. Your locked in. No more than 1 person a week, off! By department!