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Even the cable cars have their money problems

March 03, 2005 08:35AM
There was an interesting piece on NPR this morning. Apparently the San Francisco Municipal Railways lost $57 million on the three remaining cable car lines. The fare is going up to a whopping $3 to $5 a ride. I rode the whole system in the 1960s for 25 cents a ride! The cable cars require a two man crew - a grip man and a brakeman . The three lines (California, Powell-Mason & Hyde and Powell & Market) are not only the last true cable cars(underground cable) but also the last narrow gauge street railroads in North America(42") Portland, Oregon, Denver and LA had extensive 42" trolley lines . The last to go was the LA lines that last ran in the spring of 1962 . Shortly before abandonment, I had the pleasure of riding the LA cars all day with my very patient mother. No photos but some great memories, including my only glimpse of a Pacific Electric "Red Car" in operation.
San Francisco Municipal Railways has four different transportation systems. Besides the famous cable cars it also runs bus lines, electric busses and one of the last street car systems. I believe that only Boston, Philadelphia and New Orleans still have street cars operating. At one time San Francisco had an extensive cable car system, including one or two standard-gauge lines. WIll SF consider abandoning its emblematic cable car systems? THe city last tried to about 50 years ago ,only to face a torrent of protest from business people and locals alike.
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Even the cable cars have their money problems

El Coke March 03, 2005 08:35AM

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Hobosteve March 03, 2005 08:52AM

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Fred T March 03, 2005 09:43AM

The old St. Charles line

El Coke March 03, 2005 11:23AM

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John Hillier March 03, 2005 11:27AM

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douten March 03, 2005 07:54PM

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Bruce R. Pier March 03, 2005 11:45AM

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Paul Hagglund March 03, 2005 10:56PM

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Lee Carlson March 04, 2005 07:26AM

BART

El Coke March 03, 2005 11:05AM

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John Sporseen March 03, 2005 10:17AM

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Ted Miles March 03, 2005 11:40AM

cable cars

Douglas vV March 03, 2005 12:03PM

Re: cable cars

Herb Kelsey March 03, 2005 12:39PM

Transit systems are money-losers

El Coke March 03, 2005 03:32PM

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Herb Kelsey March 03, 2005 04:22PM

Durango Street Cars

Philip Walters March 03, 2005 05:35PM

Baker City had a trolley *PIC*

RBrinton March 03, 2005 06:03PM

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Skonk March 03, 2005 06:55PM

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RBrinton March 04, 2005 08:55AM

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Skonk March 04, 2005 02:54PM

Rolling Billboards have been around a long time! *NM*

Andy Roth March 04, 2005 11:55AM

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Andrew Brandon March 04, 2005 02:25PM

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RBrinton March 04, 2005 08:10PM

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John Sporseen March 03, 2005 10:46PM

True

El Coke March 04, 2005 08:32AM

Electric Buses Most Endangered

John Frank March 03, 2005 07:05PM

Just where are the last trolleys?

El Coke March 03, 2005 07:13PM

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John Frank March 03, 2005 09:22PM

They're here!

Erik Ledbetter March 04, 2005 06:43AM

Tucson trolley

El Coke March 04, 2005 03:50PM

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Jerry Day March 04, 2005 07:51AM

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C. Irvin March 04, 2005 02:08PM

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Jerry Day March 04, 2005 02:20PM

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Brian Norden March 04, 2005 04:12PM

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WP&Ymike March 04, 2005 07:37PM

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Ted Miles March 04, 2005 09:45PM

Re: Electric Buses

El Coke March 03, 2005 07:15PM

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Paul Hagglund March 03, 2005 07:32PM

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John Frank March 03, 2005 09:24PM

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SVRy Lineman March 03, 2005 10:36PM

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Paul Hagglund March 03, 2005 10:51PM

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WP&Ymike March 04, 2005 01:46AM



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