https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/index.php Sun, 10 May 2026 13:52:34 -0600 Phorum 5.2.20 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485258,485258#msg-485258 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485258,485258#msg-485258 Mason2-6-6t Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sun, 10 May 2026 11:48:23 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485219,485219#msg-485219 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485219,485219#msg-485219 Commission meeting video April 25, 2026
The C&TS commission is looking to remove (discard, eg.deaccessioned) RR equipment that can not be maintained. Since the in person meeting (April) didn't get notice of the meeting out to the public within 72 hours, no votes of any kind were taken in the April meeting. The meeting below contains the official comments and votes regarding the equipment (along with a few other minor items). I have never done a report for special meetings. Until that changes, the video is available. Please understand, this is is step ONE of several following steps.
The video below is about 12 minutes long:
Special meeting video for May 7, 2026


A history of all commission reports & videos can be found here:
All commission reports & videos]]> Sam Seiber Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 09 May 2026 10:23:06 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485215,485215#msg-485215 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485215,485215#msg-485215 [attachment 103031 IMG_1294.jpg]]]> WilliamDiehl Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 08 May 2026 20:23:31 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485213,485213#msg-485213 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485213,485213#msg-485213 Cam's Trains_481 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 09 May 2026 21:37:21 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485195,485195#msg-485195 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485195,485195#msg-485195 [attachment 103023 IMG_E4191.JPG]
Does anyone know who the manufacturer may have been?
Thanks in advance!]]> Dave Peterson Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 07 May 2026 11:48:45 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485189,485189#msg-485189 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485189,485189#msg-485189
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Any help appreciated.]]> tgbcvr Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 09 May 2026 17:29:43 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485152,485152#msg-485152 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485152,485152#msg-485152 [attachment 103001 Screenshot2026-05-06155436.jpg]
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EBT north end dispute

Michael Allen]]> trainrider47 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 07 May 2026 21:03:09 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485145,485145#msg-485145 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485145,485145#msg-485145 [attachment 102999 scan0016-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 06 May 2026 14:40:29 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485142,485142#msg-485142 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485142,485142#msg-485142
So, I thought I had better start a different thread.

I was on the Charter in May of 2014 before the season started, that began in Antonito on day one and finished in Antonito on Day three.

I feel somewhat lousy that the fellow who spearheaded this trip didn't get full payment to the operators of D&RGW 315, which was the main power for all of our three days.

But that isn't what I was bringing to light in this conversation.

The idea of having a form of Rail Camp on the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic RR as far as I know hasn't been explored.

Coming close to it would have been CHAMA STEAM X(10) which gave the patrons the opportunity to rough it back out in the woods of Osier. Well sort of.

The last night we stayed there in Osier the wind blew so hard that the rafters were crackling under that pressure.

But I tell you the night scenes of 315 up against a backdrop of stars and an original water tower were some of the most spectacular images that I have ever taken.

To think we had the railroad in the palm of our hands, is a pretty close description, at least the Right of Way wherever we were.

I for one would be up to a stay out on a siding anywhere on that line east of Cumbres, Cumbres included.

I have walked on my own much of the right of way in the past and photographed some of the culverts along the line that are buried in years and years of dried mud soil.

Then there are some areas where the culverts very rarely see any water drainage and are as pristine as the day they were constructed, some of them out of timbers some, hewed out of rock.

The Cumbres and Toltec Scenic RR still ranks in the top for me as the most authentic piece of American past as is out there for mountain railroading.

Glad though am I to see it revitalized rather than the way it looked in 2004.


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Wouldn't it be fun to work the way they did in 1881 constructing the line, but cleaning out some of the culverts that need some attention, triming trees and staying in the backwoods for a week or 2?]]> ToltecTalk Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 07 May 2026 20:44:10 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485129,485129#msg-485129 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485129,485129#msg-485129
Have any been added since the C&TS was formed in 1970?

Thank you!]]> gregcoit Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 06 May 2026 19:14:58 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485127,485127#msg-485127 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485127,485127#msg-485127
[wjactv.com]]]> Jthorp Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 07 May 2026 16:32:30 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485117,485117#msg-485117 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485117,485117#msg-485117 you need a snow shed at this location? I think the Rio Grande Southern had a similar shed on one of its wyes.

2) In the winter, how would you plow all three sides of the wye? You can do two sides with little or no problem but for the third side
the plow would be facing the wrong way. How was the snow removed from the third side?

Thank you for your answers.]]> C.P.Huntington Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 08 May 2026 21:22:18 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485113,485113#msg-485113 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485113,485113#msg-485113 https://carsoncolorado.com/
]]> o anderson Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 08 May 2026 21:26:35 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485101,485101#msg-485101 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485101,485101#msg-485101
I am currently knee-deep into research on the work flatcars/gondolas of the D&RGW. #06051 and #06084 are some of my favorite flatcar modifications, but I realize I don't know much about aside from the surface-level material. (even after searching through of A Century + Ten and NG Pictorial Vol.X!) Sloan writes that #06051 was based out of Alamosa with the OP wreck train--so where was #06084 based out of?

Additionally, this car was in Chama in the late 60's and early 70's. Was it included in the sale to the states of CO/NM? What year did the Ashbys acquire it and move it to the loop? Is #06084 still owned by them, or owned by the Colorado Railroad Museum at this time?

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The attached photo is from April 2026. The car has seen better days, but I still find it a fascinating prototype. Hope someone has the answers I'm looking for, thanks in advance!

- Peyton Smith]]> Peyton Smith Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 09 May 2026 15:02:37 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485097,485097#msg-485097 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485097,485097#msg-485097 ToltecTalk Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 06 May 2026 17:38:55 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485094,485094#msg-485094 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485094,485094#msg-485094 [attachment 102969 img9222-Copy-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 05 May 2026 14:14:17 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485079,485079#msg-485079 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485079,485079#msg-485079
July 1987. Rail camp was a boxcar modified into a cabin for weekly rental to folks who wanted to spend some time in the woods. The rental included a private train from Durango to the campsite at Cascade, and return. Sadly the service only lasted a few years. Anyone remembrer the details, maybe an inside image of the car? I would have loved to have taken advantage of it, but it would have been a hard sell to convince my better half.

JBWX]]> John West Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 07 May 2026 15:12:02 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485077,485077#msg-485077 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485077,485077#msg-485077
Looks to have been there during the late 1940s and then removed.

I’m in the planning stages for building a model of the depot for my outdoor layout and might include this little oddity.

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Tuesday I am going to visit with someone who knows some things about the road, and I am offering to take your burning questions with me. Either PM me or add it to this thread, where there are some people who knows some things about the road.]]> Elrey Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 04 May 2026 20:41:31 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485049,485049#msg-485049 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485049,485049#msg-485049 lot of railroads in Colorado did not last long, being consolidated into the D&RG and South Park lines, but do you have any photos of the really lesser-known routes like the RG&PS or the one above Fairplay or the Treasury Mountain/Crystal River ones? I have the book "Tracking Ghost Railroads in Colorado" and I was shocked as to how many lines there were that I never even knew of. Thanks for the help!]]> Mason2-6-6t Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 05 May 2026 10:58:33 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485025,485025#msg-485025 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485025,485025#msg-485025
Here is a walk around set of photos.
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[attachment 102941 IMG_7469.jpeg]]]> dave2-8-0 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 09 May 2026 11:50:30 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485012,485012#msg-485012 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485012,485012#msg-485012 (I’m unsure of the spelling of the engineer’s name as multiple newspapers have different spellings.) Miraculously, the caboose remained on the rails. Newspaper accounts described the event in great detail.

The Alamosa Empire, May 5, 1926
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Rocky Mountain News, Volume 67, Number 124, May 4, 1926
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This article was reprinted 10 Years Later in The News Ledger - Antonito, May 7, 1936
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Photo showing underside of 489 in the Friends collection

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Another angle and post previously shared here.

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While Engineer Kretcher lost his life that day, Joe Dalla would go on to serve the Rio Grande for many more years. He would also go on to have several other harrowing experiences on the hill, but that's a story for another day.

This is just one of many wrecks that occurred on Cumbres Pass over the decades. Lately, I have been researching many of these and have successfully been able to line up some newspaper articles to some images in the Friends photo collections. In other cases, I have found many news stories of other wrecks that I had never even heard of. While pinpointing accuracy to location on some of these accounts has proven challenging, the sheer number of accidents on the hill is incredible. It goes without saying, Mr. Kretcher was only one of many lives that where lost on Cumbres Pass. As the research continues, I didn't want today to pass without acknowledging the sacrifices so many railroaders made to keep our favorite narrow gauge line alive and running. Then, now, and forever...

-DRGW489]]> DRGW489 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sun, 03 May 2026 00:35:49 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485007,485007#msg-485007 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,485007,485007#msg-485007
473 brought up the first train, the Presidential train, seen here exiting the Animas Canyon. Two Model Ts are waiting for the train

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The mountains are still snowy, at least on the north facing slopes, but summer conditions will come early this year

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Ian]]> Dormie62 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 04 May 2026 17:30:22 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484974,484974#msg-484974 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484974,484974#msg-484974
Anyone seen railway pins like this?

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