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            <title>D&amp;RGW 223 photographic History (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I do not mean to hijack Jerry’s 223 thread, but the only photos I’ve found of 223 at work was when the locomotive was used on the Baldwin Brach and based out of Gunnison.  I looked for a photo of 223 in Durango or even Utah, but found none.  Otto Perry’s work on file at DPL includes a limited number of images and those were Baldwin Branch.  Do other photos of 223 exist on other sites?  I last saw 223 stuffed and mounted while it was getting a regular watering by the sprinklers in a city park then years later on a concrete pad behind a fence in Ogden.  The fact this locomotive is now in Durango for restoration is amazing.  Thanks for any interest and input.<br />
Craig]]></description>
            <dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 10:20:30 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Speaking of Hooters! (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ We were in Durango on September 12, 2026 and caught 493 departing with the 8:15 train.  The last time I heard a hooter whistle was at Cass Scenic Railroad on one of its Shays.  <br />
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video: [<a href="https://youtu.be/sKsDbXEdDtU"  rel="nofollow">youtu.be</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Yard Limit</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 09:00:04 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Signs of Life on the Gunnison Branch, 1912-1915 (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The DSP&amp;P/Colorado &amp; Southern mainline from Como to Gunnison via the great Alpine Tunnel went dark after the closure of the tunnel at the end of 1910. While bits of it lived on, even the inactive tracks were left in place over a decade. I put together a piece looking at some curious uses for the remaining tracks between Hancock and the east portal of the tunnel, one of which nearly turned deadly for a group of recreational handcar riders. I also found a newspaper article (Thanks to Daniel W. Edwards' great books) relating the nighttime opening of part of the old Gunnison mainline out of Como.<br />
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You can find the post on <a href="https://alpinetunnel.blogspot.com/2026/09/signs-of-life-on-gunnison-branch-1912.html"  rel="nofollow">my blog here</a> (or on the Substack version <a href="https://searchingforthecsng.substack.com/p/signs-of-life-on-the-gunnison-branch"  rel="nofollow">here</a>).<br />
Enjoy,<br />
Kurt<br />
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            <dc:creator>Kurt Maechner</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 06:23:34 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Havana, Rantoul &amp; Eastern (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ March, 1887 O. R. E. G. under Illinois Central<br />
Box . . . Even Numbers . . . .#12 - 72 a.<br />
Box . . . Even Numbers . . . #76 - 104 . . 46 cars<br />
Flat &amp; Coal . . Odd Numbers . . #1 - 69 . . 8-ton capy. . . 26 cars b<br />
Flat &amp; Coal . . Odd Numbers . . #73 - 111 . . 14-ton capy. . 20 cars<br />
Caboose . . . #2, 4, 8 . . . . 3 cars<br />
Coach . . . . . #1, 2 . . . . 2 Cars<br />
Baggage &amp; Mail . . . #3, 194 . . . . 2 cars<br />
Express . . .. .  .#6 . . . . . 1 car<br />
a. Box car #54 changed to Champaign &amp; Havana (Std Gauge) tool car #1<br />
    Box car #30 is a tool car<br />
    Box car #44 is a wrecking car<br />
    Box cars #60 and 62 are bridge, gang and tool cars<br />
b. Car #53 is a pile driver<br />
    Car #65 is a wrecking car]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RonRudnick</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 03:52:11 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Stoddard Lumber Co. #4 Heisler (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ This photo taken at the Sumpter Valley Ry. yard in South Baker, was taken not long before scrapping.  We have Stoddard Lumber Co. #4, a narrow gauge 40 ton Heisler purchase new by Stoddard Lbr. in 1922 and scrapped in 1947.  She was likely last used at the Denny Cr. reload in 1941 to load logs on Sumpter Valley flat cars. The logs had been carried down to the reload yard from the high country by trucks.  She had a gypsy winch on the pilot at that time used to run an A frame loader.  In this dead line shot, the gypsy winch is gone and we see that the drive shafts have been removed and are laying along the side of the boiler on top of the frame.  The scan is from the SVRR Archive.<br />
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            <dc:creator>J.B.Bane</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 13:56:40 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>D&amp;RG Class 125 Erecting Cards (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hello all! First post here, apologies if this isn't the right place for this.<br />
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I've been planning on a 3D model of the Class 125s, but can't for the life of me find any detailed drawings.<br />
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Anything would be appriciated!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>cassofgrande</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 15:12:59 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>223 Home After 84 Years (17 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ 84 years after C-16 #223 was donated to Salt Lake City in spring 1941, 223 returned to Colorado and Rio Grande rails this morning. 223 Locomotive Foundation president, Jimmy Booth, oversaw the unloading of 223 in the Durango &amp; Silverton yards next to the shops where it will rebuilt and restored to operation.<br />
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            <dc:creator>Jerry474</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 09:16:22 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>480, 481,and 482 with fall colors in Silverton today - 9-18-2026 (2 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The fall colors in Silverton are close to peaking, making a beautiful backdrop for the three K-28s in Silverton today. Other areas in the San Juans will likely peak in one to two weeks.<br />
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480 approaching Silverton with the third train<br />
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481 backing her train from the wye into town<br />
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482 making the same backup move with her train<br />
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            <dc:creator>Olaf Rasmussen</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 11:28:29 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Rizzoli D&amp;RGW 5 Chime Testing (2026) (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Rizzoli Locomotive Works out testing yet another D&amp;RGW 5 chime on McCRRR #18 once again. They are definitely two different whistles but this one definitely sounds a lot like 487's whistle or 484's from way back in 80s and 90s on the C&amp;TS.<br />
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[<a href="https://youtu.be/LoUFQXjD5Y0?is=ZT47sFxvNFOq0pcP"  rel="nofollow">youtu.be</a>]<br />
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[<a href="https://youtu.be/fDT6iNvUs24?is=eU1ah6NnhWU5_qUp"  rel="nofollow">youtu.be</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dean2926</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 04:56:07 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>YouTube Video about D&amp;S's 493 (7 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I found this on YouTube<br />
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<br/><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/QqkUGk6NPpE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="750" height="617" /><br/><br />
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It is a well done video on 493's break in run and first revenue run after recently completed repairs.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>guymonmd</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 20:07:57 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>What’s a “Bosen”? (8 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I like to view recent C&amp;TS RR videos posted on YT and one posted several days ago by “Seeley Mainline” caught my attention and brought up several questions. The video “The Cumbres and Toltec Scenic RR” (link below) covers the entire RR in an hour and the composition and photography itself are excellent.  However, there were glaring errors in the accompanying onscreen verbiage that appear to be generated by AI and not checked. Words like itinerary, Chama, boarder (for border) and several others were misspelled. There were several interviews with Brad (no last name) who I assume is a Friends docent and he was identified as “Bosen/Historian.” (The Friends organization was not mentioned in the video.) <br />
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Several other items bothered me. He received a cab ride from Osier to Sublette based on only the conductor’s approval. Isn’t that something that management should be aware of and approve for insurance and other reasons, for example?<br />
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Finally, he uses music that is not credited, a song maybe by Dolly Parton? Other members on this forum credit music used in their videos.<br />
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Am I being picky? Yes, maybe too much. I enjoy the videos but have a personal bias against joining any social media (Faceplant, Instasomething, YT, etc.) so avoid the hoards that give comments there. Here the word Bosen used to identify a docent brought me to highlight this video. Maybe someone with a YT account can give Mr. Mainline some critical feedback.  <br />
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[<a href="https://youtu.be/NK5Srf3qL2w"  rel="nofollow">youtu.be</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dave Boyer</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 14:38:57 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Sumpter Valley Coaches Number 25 and 26 (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Color photo taken by Henry R. Griffiths in 1946 at South Baker, Oregon on the Sumpter Valley Railway showing Coaches Number 25 and 26. From the John E. Lewis Collection, Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive.<br />
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Richard Wilkens<br />
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            <dc:creator>Richard W.</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 13:06:43 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Sumpter Valley Railway Coach-Baggage Specifications (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ At the end of 2025 the Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive in Burien, Washington received a donation from the son of John E. Lewis. John had a strong interest in narrow gauge in Washington and Oregon and this included the Sumpter Valley and within the collection are the specifications, floor plan and cross section for the Coach-Baggage cars. The collection has a large amount of photographs that we are working on digitizing with a number from Sumpter Valley Auditor Franklyn Marion (F.M.) Chandler.<br />
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Richard Wilkens<br />
Director of Collections<br />
Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive<br />
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            <dc:creator>Richard W.</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 13:57:05 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>More info about the Mule's Relief? (9 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Howdy, you guys have any detailed info about the Mule's Relief? I'm working on a project so any pictures of it (preferably in dummy form) would be very much appreciated, thanks!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Mason2-6-6t</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 20:31:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>University of Nevada, Reno, narrow gauge photos (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I don't care much for their search function, but there is a lot there.  Here's one search.<br />
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[<a href="https://unr.dgicloud.com/solr-search/content/grid?search_api_fulltext=%22narrow%20gauge%22&amp;field_ancestors="  rel="nofollow">unr.dgicloud.com</a>]<br />
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Another:<br />
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[<a href="https://unr.dgicloud.com/solr-search/content/grid?search=%22Lake%20Tahoe%20%22%20train&amp;f%5B0%5D=subject%3ARailroads--Tahoe%2C%20Lake%20%28Calif.%20and%20Nev.%29"  rel="nofollow">unr.dgicloud.com</a>]<br />
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Bruce]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 15:05:50 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Uintah #52: Rebuilding the Superintendent's personal vehicle (14 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ For the last year or so, I have thought about building Gilpin Tramway #1 "Gilpin." because of its small size and other aspects that would make the locomotive easier to build. However, GT #1 is a Shay locomotive, and those are difficult to deal with, let alone build a full-scale replica of one, so I recently came up with the thought of rebuilding Uintah Railway #52.<br />
For those who don't know, Uintah #52 was a 1922, or a later-year, Ford Model T "coupe" that was reconstructed into a rail vehicle at the Atchee Shops of the Uintah around 1934 (This is according to the "Uintah Railway: The Gilsonite Route" by Henry E. Bender). I believe, especially since we only know the earliest possible year of Model-T it could've been, this vehicle could be rebuilt. I believe this would be an interesting vehicle to build, as well as adding to the pool of 3ft motors that exist, and a fairly simple-to-build and easy-to-store vehicle compared to a steam locomotive. It would also bring back, or recreate, a small piece of the Uintah's history, as well as the history of Western Colorado and Eastern Utah. <br />
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Just thought I should post here beforehand to see what people in the community would think if I were to rebuild this motor. I likely won't be starting this possible project for a few years due to college and other obligations.<br />
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            <dc:creator>GilpinMan1887</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:43:17 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Early Days of SVRR (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ This SVRR photo was taken back in the 1980's.  It looks like the train is ready to head off down the valley, but in fact, the end of track is just out of sight to the right short of the road crossing.  I don't think there was a siding at this time, so the train just went to the end of the track and then back up.  The scan is from the SVRR Archive.<br />
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            <dc:creator>J.B.Bane</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 11:15:24 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Conoco Tank Cars - again... (no replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I know CONX 8 had the large CONOCO lettering on it, but I have seen model pics of CONX 11 with large CONOCO but only prototype pics of it without the large lettering.<br />
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Does anyone know of any pictures of CONX 10?<br />
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Thanks in advance for everyone's knowledge, <br />
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Robert]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rdamurphy</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 01:54:16 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Blueprint/Floorplans of the Nevada California Oregon's Reno Depot (1 reply)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I'm looking for floorplans or blueprints for the NCO's depot that survives today in Reno. I couldn't find any from my online so I figured this would be the place to ask. I'd be surprised if any do exist since the depot is pretty obscure but I'd be delighted if they do exist.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>MainlineThruTheRockies</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 15:01:59 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Modeling Content: Sherline Products is Closing (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ For those of you who model and might not get this elsewhere:<br />
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<a href="https://www.sherline.com/an-important-message-to-our-sherline-customers/"  rel="nofollow">https://www.sherline.com/an-important-message-to-our-sherline-customers/</a><br />
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A real shame, a US company with a machine tool niche that somehow evaded real competition.  I ordered a tool to round out my collection, and they discounted the price 25% at checkout.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Glenn Butcher</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 19:26:01 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>The Last Working Days of this Engine (4 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ This photo was taken April 13th, 1947 at Bates, Or.  This is scanned from a negative that I donated to the SVRR Archive some years back.  It did not appear that I had shared this particular scan which may mean that we or someone else had shared the same image from a second negative or print.  Anyway, This is Oregon Lumber Co.'s 50 ton narrow gauge Heisler.  In the last years of moving lumber by rail from Bates to South Baker, Oregon, #100 was used to handle the switching between the mill and the interchange tracks that were located in the mile between Bates and Austin. At the time of this photo #100 was nearly out of a job because only three days later, the last loads of lumber would be moved from Bates to South Baker over the Sumpter Valley Ry. #100 herself was brought to a dead line at South Baker and remained there until 1954.  Word of mouth story is, she was offered to the City of Baker for a park display, but the offer was not excepted and she was cut up for scrap.  Note the water tank on the left side of the photo.  In earlier shots, it had a hip roofed house around the tank.  I have no explanation of why the tank house was removed.  The tank had a spout on both sides and was jointly owned by the Oregon Lumber Co. and Sumpter Valley Ry.  The other side of the tank was next to the Sumpter Valley mainline to service the railroads engines, while the side where #100 is was the start of the Oregon Lumber Co.'s trackage to the mill and down the Middle Fork of the John Day River.<br />
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            <dc:creator>J.B.Bane</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 15:09:24 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Needleton Stop (2 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I am interested in history of the Needleton stop on the D&amp;SNG from Durango to Silverton, perhaps including a map of the area.  Does anyone have information?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>DonG</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 20:45:50 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>SVRy ACF Coach Specifications 2 (no replies)</title>
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            <dc:creator>J.B.Bane</dc:creator>
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            <title>SVRy ACF Coach Specifications 1 (2 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ In 1918, the Sumpter Valley Ry. purchased two new identical car sets from American Car &amp; Foundry Co., "ACF". Each set of three cars was a full coach, a combine and a railway post office car.  The railroad was divided into two operating sections, the longer Baker to Austin segment and then Austin to Prairie City.  Trains operated on a schedule for a noon meet of the west bound and east bound passenger trains at Austin and later Bates, which required two consists of cars.  Apparently, for the west bound trains from Baker, probably dependent on passenger numbers, the full coach was left off at Sumpter and picked up by the east bound.  Going back to the cars, they have been nicknamed "turtle back cars" due to their rounded roof design without a clerestory.  The Bates to Prairie City portion of the Sumpter Valley was abandoned in 1933 making one full car set surplus.  A further cut back in the use of the cars was made by turning full coach #26 into a three compartment railway post office, express section and passenger coach to the end of formal passenger service in 1937.  After that some of the ACF "turtle back cars" were used for maintenance of way.  When  WW2 came along some of the cars were sold to the US Army for use on the White Pass &amp; Yukon.  In 1947 when the Sumpter Valley Ry. mainline was abandoned, the remainder of the ACF cars were sold to the White Pass with the exception of RPO #4.  The two full coaches and the two former combines remain in use on the White Pass today though heavily modified.  RPO #5 was eventually scrapped on the White Pass and RPO #4 was stripped of heavy metal and used as a small house in Baker, Oregon.  Its car body was recovered by SVRR, but was set on fire by kids and was damaged beyond repair.  Here attached is what prompted this long history,  we have the original specifications from the SVRy office files of the ACF coaches. These were saved by SVRy employee Earl Emlaw and eventually made their way to our SVRR Archive.<br />
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            <dc:creator>J.B.Bane</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 20:06:55 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Friends Watermarks (5 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It has come to my attention that some viewers of the Friends' photo collection are wary of the watermarks.  The watermarks do not appear on legitimate downloaded images.  I plan to add a comment to that effect on the opening page of the web site.  We are still working on a reasonable solution to this situation.  I will keep you all posted as to the progress.  Hopefully this controversy will reach a suitable ending for everyone.  --  Wes Pfarner]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dorman Collection</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 20:59:00 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Galloping Goose 5 on the C&amp;TS (14 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ As a volunteer on the Galloping Goose 5, I want to let the readers here know that she will be running the C&amp;TS this October.<br />
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Details are here: <a href="https://cumbrestoltec.com/unique-rail-experiences/galloping-goose/"  rel="nofollow">C&amp;TS website details</a><br />
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I attended the last member meeting a month ago. The future of Goose 5 running on guest railroads is NOT a given. Running her on guest railroads is not part of the mission statement of the Galloping Goose Historical Society. If you wish to ride on Goose 5, this might be a good time to be sure it will be a part of your memory. Cab rides come with the trip.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sam Seiber</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2026 11:07:24 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>1912 Colorado &amp; Southern letter - Transferring Ore Loads at Leadville (3 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Another interesting find from my trip to Wellington, Kansas was this November 26, 1912 letter from C&amp;S Superintendent P.H. Courayz (best guess at his last name) to C.R. Likins, the C&amp;S Agent at Leadville regarding "Transferring at Leadville". My take is that ore and concentrate loads from mines on the C&amp;S were being transferred to standard gauge (or I suppose even narrow gauge) Rio Grande cars for shipment to the mills and smelter at Salida and C&amp;S management was wondering why this extra work was being done, given that the third rail then in place on the Rio Grande's Tennessee Pass line would allow thwarting shipments to make it to Salida in the C&amp;S narrow gauge cars that they had originally been loaded into.<br />
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            <dc:creator>Jason Midyette</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 17:49:12 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>1926 Rio Grande Southern Delay Report, Extra 41, Ridgway to Rico (12 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I ended up with a massive amount of AT&amp;SF from an online auction in Wellington, Kansas earlier this week  and came across some unexpected narrow gauge treasures this evening. One was this 1926 Rio Grande Southern Time Return and Delay Report from an Extra run from Ridgway to Rico with locomotive 41. Lots of neat details in it.<br />
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            <dc:creator>Jason Midyette</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 18:15:44 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Firing Up 464 (5 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ This narrow gauge shot is from the SVRR Archive.  While our archive is centered around the Sumpter Valley Ry. and associated logging railroads, we have probably thousands of photos that have come to us in estate collections.  This is one of those.  This is former Denver &amp; Rio Grande K27 #464 in front of the shop at the Huckleberry Railroad in Michigan.  #464 came to this railroad in 1992 having previously belonged to Knott's Berry Farm in California.  I am not sure when this photo was taken.  Based on other photos in the set, I think the engine is probably being fired up and as you can see some excess water is being drained from the boiler.  Common practice is to fill a locomotive boiler as full as possible when shutting down to exclude as much air as possible, which is why there would be excess water to drain at a fire up.  Note also there is an air hose run across the ground to the smokebox which is undoubtedly connected to the blower to create a draft for fire up which would normally be done with steam pressure once it is present.<br />
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            <dc:creator>J.B.Bane</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 09:23:34 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Cumbres Pass Pavillion status (5 replies)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Winter of 2022/23, the snow really fell on Cumbres Pass and crushed the pavilion there. Here is the NGDF post of a picture from then:<br />
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The commission meetings over the last year have detailed progress of building a new one. The last meeting reported that things were underway. On my way home, I verified that report. The foundation was poured. Last Friday (9/11), the floor was poured. 12 trucks of concrete arrived Cumbres to do the job.<br />
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The forms are 4 feet tall. The perimeter foundation is over 3 feet tall, and from memory, about 18 inches wide. I failed to get a photo of just the foundation concrete. It is serious. I rode the train Wednesday 9/9. As I returned to Chama, I noticed metal stuff on a couple of flat carts. It quickly dawned on me what I just saw. The pavilion building kit. My friend suggested to me that was a great way to haul the building up to the pass. The crane needed to erect the building would have an easier reach to the flat cars than reaching over to an 18 wheeler with that material. Plus, getting an 18 wheeler up there would be tricky. Additionally, the flat cars could be moved to and fro as the unloading required. The last meeting reported the new building will be ready to go for next year. Looks to be true. I rather hope the new building gets a major stress test of snow this winter. For what I have seen so far, the new building will be fine. After my travels around CO this late summer, things are VERY dry.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sam Seiber</dc:creator>
            <category>Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 20:38:13 -0600</pubDate>
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