https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/index.php Wed, 15 Apr 2026 05:41:35 -0600 Phorum 5.2.20 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484495,484495#msg-484495 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484495,484495#msg-484495
Thanks to Cameron and his dad for taking me and thanks to Steve for hanging out! :)-D

Antonito, 114's repaint had started earlier that day. Anyone got more photos? 4/10/2026
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C&S 641 in Leadville. 4/13/2026
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C&S 9 in Breckenridge 4/13/2026
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D&RGW 268 "Cinder-Ella" in Gunnison (This was my first time seeing a C-16!) 4/13/2026
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D&RGW 278 in storage in Cimarron, Any info on current / future plans? 4/13/2026
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The trip was very fun, definetly going next year!]]> Wade Howard Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 23:24:38 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484494,484494#msg-484494 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484494,484494#msg-484494

]]> Chris Webster Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 20:42:17 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484493,484493#msg-484493 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484493,484493#msg-484493
C & S High Line Enginemen – 1930 to 1937
List below is in order of seniority. Personal information is from the 1930 US census, which was conducted in Park and Lake Counties in April 1930. Location in 1940 is from the 1940 US census, conducted in April 1940. Location in 1950 is from the 1950 US census. List includes engineers & firemen working on the C&S “High Line” (Como – Leadville) on or after January 1, 1930. Ages at time of the 1930 census are in parenthesis.

Gallagher, William E. (Bill) (65) Engineer date 8/20/1896. 919 Poplar St., Leadville (Note 1), married 32 years to Mary (58), no children living at home. Died 12/23/1932. Buried in Como, CO. See Note 2.

Colligan, Patrick F. (Curly) (62) Engineer date 12/22/1897. 14 Broadway, Como, married 28 years to Nellie (56), no children living at home. Como in 1940. Died 9/11/41, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO

Parlin, Walter S. (57) Engineer date 10/26/1899. 1119 Poplar St., Leadville (Note 1), married 28 years to Sadie (45), no children living at home. Died in Denver hospital 3/6/31, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO. Still employed by the C&S at the time of his illness and subsequent death.

Thomas, Robert H. (Bob) (44) Engineer date 4/14/1909. 405 East Tenth St., Leadville (Note 1), married 11 years to Eva (37), one child living at home. Leadville in 1940 as engineer. Leadville in 1950, not working. Died 1956, buried in Leadville, CO

Thomas, Charles H. (47) Engineer date 10/7/1909. Como, shows married, but wife not listed as living in Como. 218 West 3rd St., Leadville (Note 1) in 1940, no occupation identified (listed as married to Eva (28), with 3 children living at home). Died 12/25/52, buried in Canon City, CO

Williamson, Charles W. (47) Engineer date 9/16/17. 231 East Eighth St., Leadville (Note 1), married 20 years to Hazel (39), one child living at home. Died in the last major derailment on the High Line on 1/21/1936, buried in Leadville, CO

Anderson, Albin A. (Brownie) (42) Engineer date 1/20/18. Como, married 13 years to Nellie (32), 2 children living at home. 416 East 7th St., Leadville (Note 1) in 1940. 2710 Umatilla St., Denver in 1950, working as locomotive fireman. Died 3/17/68, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO

Gibbony, Thomas (36) Engineer date 12/28/20. Pine St., Como, married 10 years to Anna (35), 2 children living at home. Como in 1940 as section hand. Died 2/73, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO

Delaney, Joseph B. (37) Engineer date 3/14/27. Como, married 10 years to Gertrude (30), no children living at home. Como in 1940 as railroad engineer. Denver in 1950 as railroad fireman. Died 7/18/53, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO

Oshier, John B. (Bon) (44) Engineer date 2/24/36. Como, married 20 years to Nellie (40), 3 children living at home. Denver in 1940 as railroad engineer. Died 1/71, buried in Denver, CO

Marinelli, Peter L. (33) Engineer date 7/14/36. Pine St., Como, married 6 years to Daisy (29), one child living at home. Como in 1940 as locomotive fireman. Boulder, CO in 1950 as coal miner. Died 1960, buried in Denver, CO

Johnson, Arthur R. (35) Engineer date 7/16/36. Buffalo Springs, married 7 years to Eila, 2 children living at home. Fairplay in 1940 and 1950 as garage (auto repair) owner. Died 1964, buried in Canon City, CO

Gibbony, William W., (32) Not on 1930 Census, U.S. Veterans records show died 3/2/1938.

Hallock, Guy (48), 419 E. 9th St., Leadville, married to Lillie (47), no children living at home. Como in 1940 as mine laborer.
Died 8/19/58, buried in Como, CO

Robinson, Howard N. (36), married to Vera (34), one child living at home. Jefferson in 1940. Died 2/17/61, buried in Bailey, CO

Schnurbusch, Douglas M. (29), Tarryall, married 5 years to Margaret, 3 children living at home. Como in 1940 as locomotive fireman.
Denver in 1950 as a rubber company press operator. Died 1996, buried in Littleton, CO

Eshe, Clinton F. (23) Engineer date 7/16/36. Como, single. Denver in 1940. Died 1996, buried in Park County, CO

Gibbony, Emmet R. (24), Rowe St., Como, single. Como in 1940 as locomotive fireman. Died 4/6/41, buried in Como, CO

Schnurbusch, Robert B. (26), Tarryall, married 1 year to Esther, 1 child living at home. ? in 1940. Denver in 1950 as locomotive engineer.
Died 1981, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO

McGlochlin, Roy (21), Lakeside, single. ? in 1940. Died 10/3/83, buried in Cedaredge, CO

Eshe, Ernest L. (19), Como, single. ? in 1940. Died 8/30/70, buried in Wheat Ridge, CO

Greenwell, Edward L. (18), Jefferson, single. ? in 1940. Died 5/1991.

Note 1 – House still standing.

Note 2 – Gallagher was found deceased in his cabin in Como on the morning of December 23, 1932 (Friday), where he laid over between runs, as his home terminal was Leadville. He had brought the eastbound passenger train into Como the previous day. The Fairplay newspaper reported his death that very day, as apparently they had been notified of his death before the paper went to print. The notice and obituary are included below:

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What is the housing like?
What is the best way to get there?

I am insanely jealous as I would have loved to have done this when I was his age but was more focused on college at the time.

Thanks in advance

Mike Thidemann
Atlanta, GA]]> mthidemann Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 18:07:32 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484463,484463#msg-484463 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484463,484463#msg-484463
I've been collecting pics of Bennett Station on the White Pass and Yukon Route and was hoping there may be some more leads here. I'm looking for anything before 2018, when (IIRC) the dining house was discontinued and the station was made entirely into a museum. If anyone has any pictures of the dining area itself (any era) I would be forever grateful and ecstatic!

Besides pics, any info or stories of Bennett Station would also be greatly appreciated, if anyone here got to eat there before it retired :)-D .]]> belugasinalaska77 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 15:57:38 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484451,484451#msg-484451 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484451,484451#msg-484451
Jimmy
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Current leaderboard, and click to vote: [10best.usatoday.com]

There are 4 narrow gauge railroads in the top 10, at the moment D&SNGRR is at #1 position, EBT is #2, Georgetown Loop is #4, C&TSRR is #5, and WP&Y is #8. Roaring Camp is in the poll, but has both standard and narrow gauges, and seems likely to not end up placing very high.


As before, you can vote once per day, but since there are no 'log in's you can vote on every device / browser you have. And if you clear the cookies (or use a Private Window) you can vote as many times in a row as you want. 8-)

Voting goes on another 10 days.]]> Rader Sidetrack Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 08:42:31 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484426,484426#msg-484426 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484426,484426#msg-484426
It hadn't been a scheduled project in the past, so the Chronicler Corps hadn't focused on it.

Bill Kepner]]> drgw0579 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 13 Apr 2026 08:57:02 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484425,484425#msg-484425 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484425,484425#msg-484425 I'm trying to figure out what the correct diameter of the plate is.
Thanks,
Brian Bass]]> fishingmaine Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 13 Apr 2026 16:58:19 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484422,484422#msg-484422 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484422,484422#msg-484422 Thanks,
Surfliner450]]> Surfliner450 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:24:23 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484413,484413#msg-484413 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484413,484413#msg-484413 Jim McKee Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 17:08:02 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484397,484397#msg-484397 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484397,484397#msg-484397 [attachment 102621 img2127-Copy-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 11 Apr 2026 18:46:46 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484394,484394#msg-484394 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484394,484394#msg-484394
The first photo is of Eureka & Glenbrook taken on the C&TS in August 2021:
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I put this photo into editor on Microsoft and converted it into a black & white photo:
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Then I ran the black & white version through an AI Colorization program on DeepAI.org:
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Does anybody else see a problem here???]]> Dave Peterson Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 17:52:45 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484393,484393#msg-484393 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484393,484393#msg-484393
Anyway, my post is about Chastity. Chastity is an amazing (2004?) Chevy 2500 Utility Van that has lived a very difficult life. Confused by kilometers or miles on her gauges, Chastity bounced through all the potholes of the yard at 4AM (at least back in 2018) to get the coaches downtown and have the door swung open countless times for switches or for the conductor to hop out and jump onto a shove for a few cars to tie down a string of 50 cars as they roll to a spot. Chastity carried drumheads, tail hoses, window cleaner, a mix CD featuring ABBA and the Beastie Boys, secret inspection clubs, huge bags of candy for chucking at passing train crews, and milk cartons full of wooden chocks, rags, blank inspection forms, or stale bottles of water. Chastity was cleaned on the reg because the only upholstery left was in the seats, so you could swing the side and rear doors open and scrub the whole chassis out with good soap and a hose.

To my knowledge, Chastity has been retired. The newer vehicle (ironically a Silver 2006 Dodge Durango) doesn't have the story, at least yet, that Chastity holds while sitting on the banks of the Skagway River waiting to be hauled off on a scrap barge to Bellingham, Haines, or to some random seasonal worker on Facebook's "Skagway Swap" (THE best source of local news in Skagway).

With all of that background, I thought I'd share a fake theme song I made back in 2018 for the "White Pass Classic Van Show", a 5 day event that features vintage vans tricked out for all the world of the narrow gauge. I did actually print some of these as posters back then and pinned them in the local grocery store and other public spaces. Am I a musician? Absolutely not, but I did make this stupid song entirely in my camper that summer of 2018 when I knew I had to be up at 3 AM for my 4:01 call time, firing up Chastity and heading down to the yard to kick off hand brakes and get a Class 1 for the Carcross and Broadway dock trains using her headlights to check piston travel and then turn right around and drive ahead of the shove downtown. Good times.




White Pass Classic Van Show]]> John C Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:27:22 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484380,484380#msg-484380 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484380,484380#msg-484380
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The back cover with 3 ft gauge NdeM Baldwin 2-8-0 267 in 1967

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This collaboration by Frank and his daughter Rebecca will keep me entranced for quite a while!]]> Olaf Rasmussen Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 07:52:42 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484376,484376#msg-484376 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484376,484376#msg-484376 [www.nytimes.com]]]> Elrey Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:51:17 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484368,484368#msg-484368 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484368,484368#msg-484368
In general, the act required among other things....... "a railroad carrier may use or allow to be used on any of its railroad lines a vehicle only if it is equipped with couplers coupling automatically by impact, and capable of being uncoupled, without the necessity of individuals going between the ends of the vehicles";

Below is the cover of the Railroad Trainman's Journal from July 1892. The full page advertisement gives you an idea of how railroad employees were treated and the need for the act.
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[attachment 102611 RRTrainmansJournal1892Adv.jpg]]]> MD Ramsey Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sun, 12 Apr 2026 11:13:38 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484346,484346#msg-484346 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484346,484346#msg-484346 Russ B. Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 10 Apr 2026 22:15:58 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484342,484342#msg-484342 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484342,484342#msg-484342 kcsivils Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 10 Apr 2026 10:27:38 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484334,484334#msg-484334 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484334,484334#msg-484334 Porthos Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 10 Apr 2026 15:29:17 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484322,484322#msg-484322 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484322,484322#msg-484322 [attachment 102597 img1309-Copy-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 09 Apr 2026 12:06:13 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484316,484316#msg-484316 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484316,484316#msg-484316
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I have an opportunity to spend this weekend in Colorado Springs and I was thinking about visiting the Alpine Tunnel on Saturday or Sunday. I know that this has been a dry winter, but I am assuming that dry is relative to elevation and sun/shade and location. I know that the Alpine Tunnel is usually best to visit June through to August - so this ask would be normally out of season for a visit during a normal winter. Would anyone on the forum who is closer to Southern Colorado than me, be willing to provide a guess to the snow remaining and road accessibility to the tunnel at this point in the spring? Your input would be greatly appreciated in helping me decide if the drive is worth it.

Cheers!]]> AlabamaNGFan Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 08 Apr 2026 23:11:54 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484290,484290#msg-484290 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484290,484290#msg-484290 [attachment 102581 25448-Copy-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 07 Apr 2026 17:45:08 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484275,484275#msg-484275 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484275,484275#msg-484275 Wayne Sanderson Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 07 Apr 2026 12:41:13 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484274,484274#msg-484274 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484274,484274#msg-484274 Cam's Trains_481 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 06 Apr 2026 21:19:15 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484270,484270#msg-484270 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484270,484270#msg-484270
I've been thinking about the C&S way of classifying locomotives lately and I've been a bit stumped on some parts of it, I understand the number is for how many axles a locomotive has but what is the significance of the B in the classification, I'm going to go on a whim and just assume that the letter on the end, for example B-4-C or B-4-D, is just the way of determining the order of which the locomotive came from the builder?

I would appreciate if someone could add on to this. :)]]> Noah B. Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 07 Apr 2026 15:31:41 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484268,484268#msg-484268 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484268,484268#msg-484268
The project began in September of 2025 when we received the original boiler for replication. Interestingly enough, the original welded boiler had an ASME "L" stamp on it. The "L" stamp was a type of certification the American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME) issued to shops that fabricated locomotive style boilers. I've only seen an "L" stamp a few times before on locomotive style boilers built by the former Dixon Boiler Works in Los Angeles. After taking several measurements and utilizing a drawing created by the railroad staff, designer Adam Zarate modeled the new boiler in Solid Works. From the model Adam created construction drawings that we submitted for approval. By mid December we received the material to start fabrication.

The boiler has a straight, 20" outside diameter shell and a keyhole wrapper and firebox. Because of the boiler's smaller size we used a flanged only head for the circular part of the backhead and a flanged and flued head for the throat sheet. (Sidenote, all photos are by me unless otherwise credited.)

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Here is the flanged only head and a formed piece of plate that will make up the backhead and the flanged and flued head that will make up the knuckle of the throat sheet. Flanged and flued heads are usually found in pairs welded together at the major diameter to make an expansion joint for pipelines or fixed tubesheet shell and tube heat exchangers.

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Boilers don't look like much when they are just pieces of flat plate on a pallet. The plate and formed heads are SA-516-70.

We started fabrication by drilling the staybolt holes in the wrapper plate then countersinking the holes with a J-bevel. Next we drilled and countersunk and drilled the tube holes in the firebox plates. Everything was then sent to A & M Metal Forming to be formed into the keyhole wrapper and firebox.

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The wrapper was formed from a single piece of plate while the firebox was formed in two pieces then welded together.

Next post we'll start fitting and welding pieces together.]]> Paul Boschan Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 23:29:07 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484256,484256#msg-484256 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484256,484256#msg-484256
There are probably more people on this forum interested in steam loco builders records and research material than any of the hundred other lists I monitor. I am working on getting this into some kind of online site but that is slow going right now and I will be 81 in a couple of weeks. I feel the urgency to get the most important info (to me anyway) out in the world.

This first link is for builders data of all kinds. There are builders lists and similar material like digital versions of the Smithsonian Baldwin Register microfilms (thank you Mark Landgraf) copies of the indexes of all the Baldwin spec books at DeGolyer (helps to narrow down searches quickly) an in progress list of the spec books page by page for book page & PDF page number (only done the first four or five books if someone want to pick it up and continue on hint hint!), copies of builders lists from numerous compilers including a copy of the Baldwin Goldsmith list (thanks Allen Copeland & Joe Strapac) Baldwin XO books not at DeGolyer and all kinds of other stuff. Warning, this will consume hours of your future time! Link Follows-

[www.dropbox.com]

This next link will be mostly builders pamphlets and things like a complete set of Baldwin Magazine with an index(again thank you Mark Landgraf), a complete set of Baldwin Records of Recent Construction and an index started and my feelings wont be hurt if someone wants to work on that. Link follows-

[www.dropbox.com]

The third link is for used loco dealers which are difficult to find. Link follows-

[www.dropbox.com]

I also have a folder with 20,000+ loco rosters which I am not yet ready to put out to everyone. Also have a few hundred loco dgm books, class books equipment lists etc which I will be glad to send copies of for specific requests but not posting at this time. Also Passenger & Freight car dgms as well.

A few notes and requests-

1 Nothing is to be sold or posted on line as is but GREAT if a part of a new work.
2 I promise there are errors all over the place in the files.
3 If you have anything you can add to make this more complete PLEASE provide a copy for the collection. Loco diagram books are always need, especially from Central & South America.
4 You can share files with my two requests about selling or posting on line.
5 I have some new loco material not included I havent gotten posted into the collection yet. I am currently adding 11,000+ new items and only have 2500 or so done as of today. Most of those are maps, track charts etc. I will post the new loco related stuff in a separate folder at some point in the future with an announcement.

Please contact me off forum with questions, requests, etc as I only check here a couple of times a week if that. MY e-mail is- raildata45 at gmail dot com

Blessings!

Allen Stanley]]> raildata Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:07:41 -0600 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484248,484248#msg-484248 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,484248,484248#msg-484248 NabilIY Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 14 Apr 2026 12:40:42 -0600