Narrow Gauge Railroad Discussion Forum https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/index.php Sat, 07 Nov 2026 14:12:54 -0700 Phorum 5.2.20 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491414,491414#msg-491414 Bill White's article on the 6300's (no replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491414,491414#msg-491414
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Stan]]> stanames Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 13:59:35 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491412,491412#msg-491412 VFCO Brazil. (no replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491412,491412#msg-491412 JoaoVictor4268 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 12:57:34 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491410,491410#msg-491410 Diesel vs Steam Tug of War? (1 reply) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491410,491410#msg-491410 [attachment 105860 img2356-Copy-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 12:55:30 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491406,491406#msg-491406 NNG: Santa Fe 2926 Returns to the Mainline Video (no replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491406,491406#msg-491406
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Has anyone seen the condition of the line in the canyon by Silverton?]]> kcsivils Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 12:17:38 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491388,491388#msg-491388 NNG: 1 in 1000 Year Rainfall Event occurred over Blue Ridge, Georgia (and the Blue Ridge Scenic Railway) (3 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491388,491388#msg-491388 National Weather Service's Peachtree City, GA office:
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Last night a 1 in 1000 Year Rainfall Event occurred over Blue Ridge, GA. Both the 12-hour rainfall amount of 11.19 in and the 6-hour rainfall amount of 10.28 in exceeded the 1 in 1000 year rainfall event mark during their respective time frames per the NOAA Atlas 14.
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I have seen photos of the fill under the north approach to the Chama River bridge being completely washed out and the track hanging in the air.

Unless that is repaired I don't believe they can run the Holiday Express trains out of Chama on Dec 5 and 6.

How much damage happened within the town of Chama?]]> guymonmd Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 06 Nov 2026 16:07:14 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491353,491353#msg-491353 480 Awaiting to Begin its 1472. (no replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491353,491353#msg-491353 [attachment 105814 480_Getting_Put_On_Sandtrack_1_1_26.jpg]
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I've been meaning to post this, but on Sunday 480 was out on the sand house track and was put way in the back to await its 1472. From what I've heard from the shop crew, they expect it to be back in the roundhouse when 473 is finished with its annual, which could be around December or January.]]> Jackson_B_576 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 06 Nov 2026 08:16:58 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491341,491341#msg-491341 Horseshoe Forestry Co. (2 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491341,491341#msg-491341
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This morning I had to go to Home Depot in Farmington to get a water pump to get water out of my crawl space. D&S was working on a washout just north of the curve by the little pond...a favorite spot. When I got back from Farmington that wash out was repaired and the crew was working on one by the Dalton Golf Course (1 mile from my house). There are two washouts almost in front of PJ's Market and Trimble Hardware if you know the area. I think I saw a couple more just south of the Hermosa Creek bridge. The Hermosa yard seemed OK.

One of the D&S guys told me that George F. Niederauer, who wrote the 315 book, had his home completely destroyed.

My home was not damaged other that mud all around and a bit of water in the crawl space. I was lucky, some neighbors only a 100 yards from me had flooded homes. They say this was a 100 year flood, sure hope so as at 86 I do not need another one. The fire in 2018 made my hair gray.

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JBWX]]> John West Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 06 Nov 2026 09:00:07 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491315,491315#msg-491315 Colorado Rail Annual no. 11 (1973) (1 reply) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491315,491315#msg-491315 Jim Armstrong Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Fri, 06 Nov 2026 11:23:55 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491314,491314#msg-491314 WPYR Train to Whitehorse in 2026? (1 reply) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491314,491314#msg-491314
With two days left of passenger operations for the 2026 season (running on October 1), WPYR ran the "Cobalt Express", a conglomeration of passenger equipment bound for winter work and overhaul in Whitehorse, Yukon. The consist includes notable cars such as car 401, one of two "luxury class" cars, and 208, the railroad's track geometry car. Overall, the consist has eight cars.

While their arrival in Whitehorse is legitimate, they will swap steel for asphalt in Carcross to be trucked the remaining miles. However, upon arrival, they will meet original WP&YR trackage at Utah Yard, where Kobalt does their work.

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It is uncommon to see a large 3000 locomotive departing Fraser on a "passenger train." Unless on work train assignment, 3001-3006 spend their time between Skagway and Fraser. After passenger trains to Carcross end for the season (mid-September), all track north of Fraser is designated as "non-main track." 3002's crew will call stations for the remainder of their trip to Carcross, but will not operate with dispatcher-provided OCS Clearance.

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The rear of the train tips over at Log Cabin going north. Another rare sight is seeing luxury-class cars (401 & 402) anywhere north of Divide (White Pass).

Thanks for reading and looking! Highball!
5retainers]]> 5retainers Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 05 Nov 2026 15:32:50 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491312,491312#msg-491312 Oregon Lumber Co. #104 (1 reply) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491312,491312#msg-491312 [attachment 105759 img2318-Copy-Copy.jpg]]]> J.B.Bane Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 05 Nov 2026 16:41:06 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491307,491307#msg-491307 EBT Fire Suppression System completed (2 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491307,491307#msg-491307
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Todd]]> T A Hunter Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 05 Nov 2026 15:39:38 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491298,491298#msg-491298 Mixed Gauge — 1924 D&RGW water sources (pt 1) (39 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491298,491298#msg-491298
"Copy Negs. D&RGW photo album of Water Rights Stations"
"take[n] May to July 1924"
"W.A. Peck & J.S. DeRemer listed on title page."
"Photos of intakes & Reserviors[sic]"
"Validations as of June 30-1919"

I suspect the album might have been rescued from the dumpster during the evacuation of the old downtown Denver Rio Grande building in the early 1970s by Jack Thode, but don't know this with certainty. At any rate, they are a fascinating slice of RR history, that range from the mundane and poor to amazing (in my humble opinion). Unfortunately there was no photo of the title page, only these notes.

What they are not:
They are not 8x10 glass plates taken by George Beam with an expensive lens, the photographer(s) was not a professional, who likely used a more portable Kodak camera. Some are back-lit and the focus at the edges is not the greatest, i.e. soft. Not every water source was photographed, for whatever reason.

What they are:
The actual sizes of the prints isn't known: the aspect ratios of the images are pretty high, about 1.7 (horizontal to vertical), but they vary for some unknown reason. There are only a couple possibilities with Kodak roll film — 116 (2-1/4" x 4-1/4", introduced in 1899), and 130 (2-7/8" x 4-7/8", introduced in 1916). Aspect ratios for 116 and 130 are 1.89 and 1.70. A safe assumption is they are contact prints, with some shadow cropping on the edges. Someone has hand-written the station names in ink on the prints: this was fortunate because otherwise a lot of them would be complete mysteries.

They are organized by Division and District numbers, then by milepost; I got this information from the 1923 D&RGW official roster. Here goes, these are all 1st Division, 1st District, SG main from Denver with a lot of AT&SF double-track (milepost numbers are D&RGW):

Acequia, first tank S of Denver at milepost 17.3, 7 miles S of Littleton, 3 miles N of Louviers. Must be a coal-powered pump house:
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There were two photos of the reservoirs that fed the Palmer Lake tank, this is the "upper" one:
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Husted, milepost 61.9, first tank S of Palmer Lake, 2 miles S of Monument. The 1923 official roster lists every one of these telegraph/phone wires:
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Buttes, milepost 93.4, about 25 miles S of Colo. Springs. The 1923 roster does not show a water tank at Buttes on either the D&RG or the Santa Fe and there is no water spout on this tank. This photo shows one of the drawbacks to view cameras — making sure of the horizontal alignment:
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Pinon, milepost 105.2, 30 miles S of Colo. Springs. Looks like a pump house:
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A lot more to come...]]> Tank Smith Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 13:12:49 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491292,491292#msg-491292 Photos of Denver, South Park & Pacific #2 "Platte Canon"? (no replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491292,491292#msg-491292 Thanks!]]> Mason2-6-6t Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 04 Nov 2026 22:02:32 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491287,491287#msg-491287 Fireless ng steam locomotives in revenue service (2 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491287,491287#msg-491287

]]> Kurt Maechner Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 04 Nov 2026 21:49:11 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491283,491283#msg-491283 DRGW 1217 gondola arrives at the silica kiln site from Como (5 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491283,491283#msg-491283 www.roxhistory.org]

Guess the Como folks donated a railcar which arrived oct 23 2026 to Roxborugh, Not far from Wateron, and silica had a branch from Wateron till 1941 or so]]> daninthedome Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 00:31:52 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491270,491270#msg-491270 Miniature Gondolas in Denver (4 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491270,491270#msg-491270 [attachment 105719 Screenshot2026-11-03150915.jpg]]]> cdaspit Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 03 Nov 2026 21:18:10 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491254,491254#msg-491254 Finding/Listing all know surviving J. B. Brill Equipment Rolling Stock (3 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491254,491254#msg-491254
The Thunder Lake Coach which came from the Flint & Pere Marquette in 1897 and now survives at Rhinelander, Wisconsin, I sadly do not have much information on this car but it appears to be the best preserved out of any Brill equipment based on the pictures I've been able to find. [attachment 105707 LakeBrillCoach.jpg]

White Pass & Yukon Route Railway #214 and #216. Both cars came from me Coeur d'Alene Railway & Navigation Company around 1897. It is unknown where the cars came from beforehand at least for certain but current theory as well as historicals records highly suggest it came from the the early Cotton Belt around 1886. (Note: I have been slowly digging up evidence suggesting that the cars could have come from the early Cloverleaf but most of its circumstantial at best but still possible so I haven't ruled it out as a possibility) [attachment 105709 CoeurdAleneRailwayNavigationCompany..jpg]


The Sierra Valley & Mohawk Railway Coach #400? which later become part of the Nevada California and Oregon. While I am not fully certain on the coach’s exact number I have been told by Andrew Brandon that one does survive as a house somewhere near Alturas CA.


(and V&T Coach's 11&12 but since there SG I will not be adding pics)
This list is incomplete as is my research but I've not seen any of this information anywhere else so I thought I'd throw it out there and see if I was missing anything or someone could contribute any information. PS I have tried to add pictures as best I can and I apologize if I mess that up I'm new to the forms and figuring it out.]]> the3ftgaugelegoguy Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Wed, 04 Nov 2026 22:04:17 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491251,491251#msg-491251 Durango and Silverton oct 3rd 4thand 5th (2 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491251,491251#msg-491251 [attachment 105693 839975631_3494234884070635_2446022932367560721_n.jpg]
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JBWX]]> John West Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 02 Nov 2026 15:00:00 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491223,491223#msg-491223 Return of RC&BT (Former WSL) #7 (5 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491223,491223#msg-491223
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Congrats to the Phil Reader and the rest of the crew for accomplishing this monumental task.]]> cdaspit Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Thu, 05 Nov 2026 22:16:11 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491216,491216#msg-491216 Some Photos From the Durango and Silverton Closing Day (no replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491216,491216#msg-491216 [attachment 105669 Station_Northbound_1_1_261.jpg]
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Via Kob 4 News]]> Dean2926 Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Tue, 03 Nov 2026 11:08:51 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491177,491177#msg-491177 Locomotive 456 (4 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491177,491177#msg-491177 That has been on the list forever and the price/cost ratio was in my favor so it came home.
I want to detail as close to 1918 as possible before the tenders were rebuilt.

Now for the questions and hopefully some answers from the group.
1) Second air pump added around 1912, what size was this?
2) What size was the original air pump?
3) What generator was added around 1912?
4) What type of headlight was then used same time frame?

I did try DPL archives but nothing listed in their files.
As always thank you for any information out there.]]> risrwy Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Mon, 02 Nov 2026 05:56:54 -0700 https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491167,491167#msg-491167 Potential flooding in the San Juans Part 2 (38 replies) https://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,491167,491167#msg-491167
Wanted to give you a heads up that a storm is supposed to hit tomorrow that is predicted to be as bad if not worse than the one a week ago.

Right now, both the San Juan and Conejos rivers are expected to *exceed* the level they did last week, the Animas and La Plata rivers expected to be just below last week's levels.

This does not bode well for the communities, people and RRs impacted by last week's flooding.

Stay safe y'all!

Greg]]> gregcoit Narrow Gauge Discussion Forum Sat, 07 Nov 2026 06:06:10 -0700