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November 17, 2000 06:05PM
A little background before you read below. A BNSF train ( I think) hit a truck with a grain trailer not sure if it was loaded or empty, (loaded I believe) in Fruita on the 14th. The truck driver didn't make it.
Tom Holley is a BNSF engineer working out of Grand Jct. Co. This is his point of veiw.
Keith Goodrich, rdmstr From: tom holley
Date: Wed Nov 15, 2000 9:57pm
Subject: Re: Truck Loses in Fruita
Hello Fellow Listers,
I wish I could relate to you what it's like going down a track at 50 mph and hitting a semi. I wasn't on the BNSF train that was involved in the
Fruita tragedy. But I was on one a few weeks earlier when the train I was on hit a semi loaded with salt at 50 mph. The reaction time was long enough to think about some of the possibilities like, God I hope that thing isn't loaded with car batteries, or coleman fuel, bricks, propane bottles ect,ect.
I saw him run a flashing red light, run a stop sign and pull onto the main track ahead of us, thank the Lord his tractor made it over and we hit his trailer just ahead of the wheels. Like I said we had a little time to react, we placed the train in emergency, bailed off the drivers jumped to the floor covered up our eyes and heads with what we could and asked, why did that SOB run the stop signs?? After the impact I expected to be on the ground at 45-50 mph plowing through the dirt, asphalt and feeling the 6000 tons of train behind us with LPG, Sodium Hydosulfied, Sulfuric Acid, Fuel oils, gasoline, Anhydrous Ammonia and all the other stuff we had following us at 50 mph too. And all because this guy didn't think he had 45 seconds to let our train go by. After we hit this guy I remember feeling the wheels still turning and Holy sh*t, we were still on the rails!! I don't believe it, we weren't on fire and we were still together... We had a big majority of this guys trailer wrapped around the front of our SD 75 the impact broke the glass in front but it didn't shatter out, all the handrails on the front were bent back into the door so we couldn't get out that way. Luckily we could get out the back door. We secured the train and then the hard part, go back and see what heppened to the so called "victims of the accident" Well this truck driver had his 2 yr. old son and no kidding his wife, 7 mo. pregnant in the tractor with him. He was mad and said "you guys came out of nowhere". Hard for me to believe, but he was mad at us. I will go to my grave wondering why we didn't go on the ground, and no body got as much as a scratch on them.
This guy in Fruita was 25 yr. old and I'm guessing in a hurry too, and to beat all went down the wrong road, turned around and didn't see a witnesses attempt to stop him and got hit by a C44-9 at 50 MPH right on the tractor. I have talked to the crew, their ordeal won't be going away anytime soon. They saw him and had little time to do nothing but "plug it" and hit him. Then there was a fuel fire all over the front of the unit, they were trapped by the metal on the front and surrounded by fire, so they couldn't get out without burning, What do you do in the moment, break out a window and try to get out that way? I think unless it was already broke you would have a hell-u-va time breaking bullet proof glass. Or do you brave the fire and try to get out through the back door? Or do you just wait and either die on fire or let it hopefully burn out. Thank God the latter took place and they got smoke inhalation and a rather nasty case of Why(s). Why did this happen to us? Why was this guy here at the exact same time I was? Why am I not dead? Maybe, If I had just taken more time before we left he wouldn't have been there when we were. Why didn't he hear that Horn? Wh didn't he stop when he saw those flashing red lights? Why was he in such a hurry? How long am I going to feel like this? Will I ever be able to go over a crossing at grade without seeing this again? Why is it the news always says we hit them? They are the only ones with a steering wheel and enough brakes to stop in time. In some cruel way the "victims" are the only ones with closure to any of this, we unfortunate few who hit the folks have to live with it the rest of our lives.
Don't get me wrong this job is great when your blowing the horn waving at little kids, seeing whats in the hot tub in Glenwood Canyon. I like this job, but there are parts of it I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I see in the news now where there are big support efforts underway for the "victims" again and absolutely nothing being done to offer support for the crew in the public arena. I guess we will always be seen as the folks that perpetrate these incidents. And we should somehow feel bad that we aren't dead too.
Tom Holley
GJ
Subject Author Posted

Something to think about

rdmstr November 17, 2000 06:05PM

Re: Something to think about

David Dewey November 17, 2000 06:57PM

Re: Something to think about

Earl Knoob November 18, 2000 08:03AM

Re: Something to think about

RichB November 18, 2000 10:35AM

Re: Truckers & Police

Brian Norden November 18, 2000 11:01AM

Re: Operation Lifesaver

Wade Hall November 18, 2000 11:25AM

Re: Truckers & Police

Earl Knoob November 18, 2000 03:17PM

Bad grade crossings

El Coke November 18, 2000 05:07PM

Re: Something to think about

rdmstr November 18, 2000 07:28PM

Re: Something to think about

jhs November 18, 2000 09:21PM

Tragedy, a few laughs, and more tradegy

John West November 18, 2000 10:18PM

signals?

tim olson November 19, 2000 09:00AM

That's a problem

El Coke November 19, 2000 10:12AM

Crossing protection

John West November 19, 2000 10:21AM

Re: Crossing protection

Wade Hall November 19, 2000 01:40PM

Re: Crossing protection

Boomer November 19, 2000 02:30PM

What Scenic did .

El Coke November 19, 2000 02:34PM

Re: What Scenic did .

RBrinton November 19, 2000 04:03PM

Flagmen

John old man West November 19, 2000 04:41PM

Who stops for whom?

Les Jarrett November 19, 2000 06:52PM

Re: Who stops for whom?

J. B. Bane November 19, 2000 08:53PM

Flagmen's effectiveness

John West November 19, 2000 09:29PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Fred T November 19, 2000 11:37PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Earl the flagman November 20, 2000 06:57AM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

John the optimist West November 20, 2000 01:32PM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

Duane Richardson November 20, 2000 07:56AM

Re: Flagmen's effectiveness

O. Anderson November 20, 2000 02:18PM

Re: Flagmen

Boris Serena November 19, 2000 10:42PM

Re: Crossing protection

Art Chase November 19, 2000 10:51PM

Re: Crossing protection

Brian Norden November 19, 2000 11:02PM

In reply to Art and Brian

John West November 19, 2000 11:18PM

Re: In reply to Art and Brian

Art Chase November 20, 2000 10:18AM

Re: In reply to Art and Brian

G. W. Laepple November 21, 2000 12:39PM

130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

John West November 21, 2000 05:30PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

Ryan Scott November 22, 2000 06:31PM

Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Jessica Stacey November 23, 2000 09:21AM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Earl Knoob November 25, 2000 08:32AM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Dave Lamson November 28, 2000 10:31PM

Re: Flashers on the Narrow Gauge

Earl November 29, 2000 01:24PM

California flashers

John West November 30, 2000 01:14PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

J. B. Bane November 23, 2000 11:10AM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

Brian Norden November 26, 2000 11:36PM

Re: 130 program, bubble gum, and car fires

pmcassell November 28, 2000 06:54PM

SP San Joaquin

Brian Norden November 28, 2000 11:24PM

Re: signals?

dan November 20, 2000 08:31PM

Re: signals?

Chris November 21, 2000 04:20PM

Re: signals?

J. B. Bane November 21, 2000 07:59PM

Re: signals?

Oil Czar November 21, 2000 08:48PM

Re: signals?

Dave Lamson (ex-B&M) November 21, 2000 11:20PM

Re: signals?

dan November 22, 2000 09:15AM

Re: signals?

George Gaskill November 24, 2000 11:12AM

Re: signals?

dan November 24, 2000 02:09PM

Re: signals?

Oil Czar November 24, 2000 09:20PM

Re: signals?

George Gaskill November 24, 2000 11:44PM

Re: signals?

RBrinton November 25, 2000 09:07AM

Re: Something to think about

James R. Temple November 20, 2000 12:55AM

I'd vote for flaggers

Stevo del Applegato November 22, 2000 12:37PM



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