To continue the VW thread. I had a couple of VW beetles. Great for high school/college, cheap to insure and mpg was great. Best part about them was how much the girls wanted to ride in them, worst part was the heater/defroster. As previously stated, heater was practically useless. They were great in the snow with the engine's weight on the drive wheels, I don't know if I ever got stuck. I think I fit 10 high schoolers in there one time. A couple of small freshman in the area behind the back seat, 6 in the back seat (laps) and 2 in the passenger seat. Lucky the police never saw us...