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Re: A 168 question

January 12, 2020 05:55PM
Kelly, Dirk etc

That portion of the 168 thread concerning half flanges.

Going to have to disagree with you all. I too agreed with the photos Kelly submitted to NGDF.
However, reviewing some (real Otto Perry/DPL pix that I was able to enlarge) taken after
the repair at the joint line shops and still in-service out of Denver the 346 does indeed have the
half flanges. The 5/8” high flange is very difficult to see under the best of conditions even
on the C&S ng power. But they are visible. BTW, the 5/8” high should be familiar to our
street traction people as minimum flange height for street railway service albeit with a proper
flange profile as opposed to “squared off”.

As I was researching this, began to wonder when they started to put half flanges on, off hand,
in the teens and maybe earlier.

And one more item. It appears on SOME of the ng power, that brakes were on all four drivers. This
on some but not all of the power. Some time in the late ‘20s or early ‘30s the C&S removed
the #3 driver brakes on the remaining power leaving only the 1, 2 & 4 drivers for braking in addition
to tender. This appears not to have been done on the 74, 75 & 76 or on the moguls ( shorter wheel
base) for that matter. This from NGPictorial #Vl. Would think this possibly from too much machinery
interference or insufficient rail clearance giving the ICC man a reason to “tag” the engine. Beginning
to think this may have been a “ put it on because they need it, only to take it off ‘cause it wasn’t worth
the extra maintenance expense and they didn’t need it after all” application!

Now if I can get my scanner to function, will submit 346 copies to the forum.

Really don’t want to turn this into a “green boiler jacket discussion”, but I thought there
was more discussion on this subject but was only able to search out this 168 thread.
Probably didn’t use correct search wording. Oh well??

Hope every one had a Merry Christmas and great New Year!
Chris
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