Baldwin Loco Drawings available online for free and a 4-4-0 rabbit hole
| November 29, 2018 02:40AM |
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Hello friends,
It appears that both the Smithsonian and DeGolyer SMU are posting pictures of drawings that people (including me) have ordered copies of in the last 3 years that were then digitalized. The Smithsonian 36 online from 202 drawings are the beautiful, really old drawings from before 1890, the scans are not brighter than the original yellowed color but you can zoom in to various locations of the drawing and right click to copy resonable quality png files. Some of the drawings have amazing details from inside boiler to appurtenances like cross head water pumps and injectors.
https://sova.si.edu/record/NMAH.AC.0353
http://amhistory.si.edu/archives/AC0353_baldwin_locos_list.pdf
Most of the sources for Baldwin drawings for 4-4-0s have been indexed on the fine Pacific NG website discussion
On the Smithsonian site are 3 pages of drawings on the last one 6 from the end is Denver & Rio Grand 4-4-0 class 8-18.5C6 and I can't identify it. My best guess is that it is the last order since the date of the drawing seems to be 1882 and Sn 6631-6633 was built in 1883 as road 107-109. I give up, was a nice rabbit hole to fall into...
Vol9pg249 Denver & Rio Grande ("Mogollon", "Roaring Fork", "Gunnison", "Embuda", 92-96 1879 08-18 1/2 C
Vol10pg16 Denver & Rio Grande ("Eagle River", "Wahsatch", "TenMile") 89-91 1879 08-18 C
Vol9pg249 Denver & Rio Grande ("San Miguel", "Rito Alto", "Ptarmigan") 85-88 1879 08-18 1/2 C
Vol11pg166 Denver & Rio Grande 107-109 1882 08-18 1/2 C
Vol10pg144 Denver & Rio Grande ("Kokomo", "Hesperis", "Col. Boone") 99-101 1880 08-18 1/2 C
Below from my Excel Builders list there were alot of 4-4-0s on the D&RG.
Builders:N Yr /MonthBuilt Wheel:Arra BoreStrokeDriver First:Owne Road:Numbe Remarks Second:Own Rd:Nos:
a Rmrks:
2106 Blw 1870 3 4-4-0 16 24 56 Denver Pacific 27(1870) 127( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 127(1880) 365(1890)
2109 Blw 1870 3 4-4-0 16 24 56 Denver Pacific 28(1870) 128( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 128(1880) 366(1890) 1398( )???
2171 Blw 1870 6 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific David Moffat(2nd) 26(1870) 126( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 126(1880) 433(1890)
2172 Blw 1870 6 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific Thomas Egerton 25 std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 125(1880) 432(1882) (125 was Kan.Pac.)
2173 Blw 1870 6 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific Walter Cheesman(2nd) 24 std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 124(1880) 431(1882) (124 was Kans.Pac.)
2506 Blw 1871 7 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific John Evans 23(1871) 123( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 123(1880) 710(1882) 841( ) reb.as 841, sold 8/04 SP 1463
3867 Blw 1876 4 4-4-0 11 16 44 Denver & Rio Grande Pike 16 3'ga., cls.37, ret./87, for sale 10/87, sc.6/88
3869 Blw 1876 4 4-4-0 11 16 44 Denver & Rio Grande Greenhorn 17 3'ga., cls. 37, sold 10/88 R. W. Stewart & Co. 00 (lumber)
3871 Blw 1876 4 4-4-0 11 16 44 Denver & Rio Grande Spanish Peaks 18 3'ga., cls.37, for sale 10/87, scrap 6/88
4331 Blw 1878 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Rio Bravo 26 3'ga., cls.38, scrap 8/98
4738 Blw 1879 7 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Culebra 35 3'ga., cls.38, sold 2/93 (via G.M.Dilley) Bering Manufacturing Co. 00
4825 Blw 1879 10 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande San Juan 36 3'ga., cls.38, (bot.thru Phila.& Col.Eq.) sld.8/93 Cameron Lumber Mills 36 ? (from D&RG via G.M.Dilley), sold RGS 36 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
4948 Blw 1880 1 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Fort De Remer 85 3'ga., cls.42, sold 1/00 ($2000) Gurdon Lumber Co. 00 (Gurdon Ark), sold Morris Lbr. Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5042 Blw 1880 4 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande San Miguel 86 3'ga., cls.42, sold 7/96 ($1800) Torres & Prietas (FC) (A. Prietas) 1 (Mexico) sold (bu /10) FC Mex.el Un. 1 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5053 Blw 1880 4 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Rio Alto 87 3'ga., cls.42, sold 12/94 Sanford & Saint Petersburg Railway 11 sold /00 Flint Riv.Lbr. Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5105 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Eagle River 89 3'ga., cls.38, sold 8/93 George M. Dilley & Sons 00 (dealer) sold 5/00 M.Elmore Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5106 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Wasatch 90 3'ga., cls.38, sold 8/98 R. E. Trahue 00
5107 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Ten Mile 91 3'ga., cls.38, sold 8/93 (via G.M.Dilley) Teche Railroad & Sugar Co. 00 sold /95 Teche RR
5118 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Mogollon 92 3'ga., cls.42, sold 12/94 Sanford & Saint Petersburg Railway 12 road reb.std./95, sold /98 ACL 801 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5119 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Roaring Forks 93 3'ga., cls.42, sold 11/91 Rio Grande Southern Railroad 36 cls.42, sold /93 Ark.Lbr. Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5139 Blw 1880 6 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Gunnison 94 3'ga., cls.42, sold 2/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 94 sold /89 RGW 94 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5140 Blw 1880 6 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Embuda 95 3'ga., cls.42, sold 2/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western 95 sold /89 RGW 94 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5144 Blw 1880 6 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Morena 96 3'ga., cls.42, ret.6/03 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5198 Blw 1880 8 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Ptarmigan 88 3'ga., cls.42, sold 2/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 88 sold /89 RGW 88
5425 Blw 1880 12 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Kokomo 99 3'ga., cls.42, sold 1/94 Sanford & Saint Petersburg Railway 9(2nd) sold 1/98 Flint Riv.Lbr.
5436 Blw 1881 1 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Hesperus 100 3'ga., cls.42, scrap 6/08
5441 Blw 1881 1 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Colonel Boone 101(2nd) 3'ga., cls.42, scrap 8/98
6631 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande 107 3'ga., cls.42.5, sold 7/86 Rio Grande Western 107 sold /89 D&RGW 107
6631 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 107 3'ga., ex /89 RGW 107, scrap 8/98
6632 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande 108 3'ga., cls.42.5, sold 7/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 108 cls.42.5, sold /89 RGW 15
6633 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande 109 3'ga., cls.42.5, sold 7/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 109 cls.42.5, sold /89 RGW 16
[edan.si.edu]
At the DeGolyer here are definitely scans of drawings that I've order of Brazilian locomotives. 90 drawings so far some part drawings. As I identify the order specs for the drawings I post the information in the Tags.
http://digitalcollections.smu.edu/cdm/search/collection/rwy/searchterm/Series%201:%20Engineering%20Drawings/mode/exact
Thor Windbergs
Ludwigsburg, Germany
Facebook: Thor Windbergs
Volunteer G&L RR 86-88
Fireman/Engine Watchman D&S 90-94
Member Frankfurter Feldbahn Musuem, feldbahn-ffm.de
Member IFPPC (Society for Preservation of Perus Pirapora Railroad) Brazil www.internationalsteam.co.uk/trains/brazil54.htm
Member German Standard gauge Group www.eisenbahnfreunde-zollernbahn.de
It appears that both the Smithsonian and DeGolyer SMU are posting pictures of drawings that people (including me) have ordered copies of in the last 3 years that were then digitalized. The Smithsonian 36 online from 202 drawings are the beautiful, really old drawings from before 1890, the scans are not brighter than the original yellowed color but you can zoom in to various locations of the drawing and right click to copy resonable quality png files. Some of the drawings have amazing details from inside boiler to appurtenances like cross head water pumps and injectors.
https://sova.si.edu/record/NMAH.AC.0353
http://amhistory.si.edu/archives/AC0353_baldwin_locos_list.pdf
Most of the sources for Baldwin drawings for 4-4-0s have been indexed on the fine Pacific NG website discussion
On the Smithsonian site are 3 pages of drawings on the last one 6 from the end is Denver & Rio Grand 4-4-0 class 8-18.5C6 and I can't identify it. My best guess is that it is the last order since the date of the drawing seems to be 1882 and Sn 6631-6633 was built in 1883 as road 107-109. I give up, was a nice rabbit hole to fall into...
Vol9pg249 Denver & Rio Grande ("Mogollon", "Roaring Fork", "Gunnison", "Embuda", 92-96 1879 08-18 1/2 C
Vol9pg249 Denver & Rio Grande ("San Miguel", "Rito Alto", "Ptarmigan") 85-88 1879 08-18 1/2 C
Vol11pg166 Denver & Rio Grande 107-109 1882 08-18 1/2 C
Vol10pg144 Denver & Rio Grande ("Kokomo", "Hesperis", "Col. Boone") 99-101 1880 08-18 1/2 C
Below from my Excel Builders list there were alot of 4-4-0s on the D&RG.
Builders:N Yr /MonthBuilt Wheel:Arra BoreStrokeDriver First:Owne Road:Numbe Remarks Second:Own Rd:Nos:
a Rmrks:2106 Blw 1870 3 4-4-0 16 24 56 Denver Pacific 27(1870) 127( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 127(1880) 365(1890)
2109 Blw 1870 3 4-4-0 16 24 56 Denver Pacific 28(1870) 128( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 128(1880) 366(1890) 1398( )???
2171 Blw 1870 6 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific David Moffat(2nd) 26(1870) 126( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 126(1880) 433(1890)
2172 Blw 1870 6 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific Thomas Egerton 25 std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 125(1880) 432(1882) (125 was Kan.Pac.)
2173 Blw 1870 6 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific Walter Cheesman(2nd) 24 std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 124(1880) 431(1882) (124 was Kans.Pac.)
2506 Blw 1871 7 4-4-0 16 24 60.7 Denver Pacific John Evans 23(1871) 123( ) std.ga., sold 1/80 Union Pacific 123(1880) 710(1882) 841( ) reb.as 841, sold 8/04 SP 1463
3867 Blw 1876 4 4-4-0 11 16 44 Denver & Rio Grande Pike 16 3'ga., cls.37, ret./87, for sale 10/87, sc.6/88
3869 Blw 1876 4 4-4-0 11 16 44 Denver & Rio Grande Greenhorn 17 3'ga., cls. 37, sold 10/88 R. W. Stewart & Co. 00 (lumber)
3871 Blw 1876 4 4-4-0 11 16 44 Denver & Rio Grande Spanish Peaks 18 3'ga., cls.37, for sale 10/87, scrap 6/88
4331 Blw 1878 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Rio Bravo 26 3'ga., cls.38, scrap 8/98
4738 Blw 1879 7 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Culebra 35 3'ga., cls.38, sold 2/93 (via G.M.Dilley) Bering Manufacturing Co. 00
4825 Blw 1879 10 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande San Juan 36 3'ga., cls.38, (bot.thru Phila.& Col.Eq.) sld.8/93 Cameron Lumber Mills 36 ? (from D&RG via G.M.Dilley), sold RGS 36 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
4948 Blw 1880 1 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Fort De Remer 85 3'ga., cls.42, sold 1/00 ($2000) Gurdon Lumber Co. 00 (Gurdon Ark), sold Morris Lbr. Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5042 Blw 1880 4 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande San Miguel 86 3'ga., cls.42, sold 7/96 ($1800) Torres & Prietas (FC) (A. Prietas) 1 (Mexico) sold (bu /10) FC Mex.el Un. 1 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5053 Blw 1880 4 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Rio Alto 87 3'ga., cls.42, sold 12/94 Sanford & Saint Petersburg Railway 11 sold /00 Flint Riv.Lbr. Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5105 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Eagle River 89 3'ga., cls.38, sold 8/93 George M. Dilley & Sons 00 (dealer) sold 5/00 M.Elmore Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5106 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Wasatch 90 3'ga., cls.38, sold 8/98 R. E. Trahue 00
5107 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 16 45 Denver & Rio Grande Ten Mile 91 3'ga., cls.38, sold 8/93 (via G.M.Dilley) Teche Railroad & Sugar Co. 00 sold /95 Teche RR
5118 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Mogollon 92 3'ga., cls.42, sold 12/94 Sanford & Saint Petersburg Railway 12 road reb.std./95, sold /98 ACL 801 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5119 Blw 1880 5 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Roaring Forks 93 3'ga., cls.42, sold 11/91 Rio Grande Southern Railroad 36 cls.42, sold /93 Ark.Lbr. Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5139 Blw 1880 6 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Gunnison 94 3'ga., cls.42, sold 2/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 94 sold /89 RGW 94 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5140 Blw 1880 6 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Embuda 95 3'ga., cls.42, sold 2/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western 95 sold /89 RGW 94 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5144 Blw 1880 6 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Morena 96 3'ga., cls.42, ret.6/03 Vol9pg249pdf186-3ftDRG1879_8-18.5C24-27_29-33dwg2Rd85-96
5198 Blw 1880 8 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Ptarmigan 88 3'ga., cls.42, sold 2/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 88 sold /89 RGW 88
5425 Blw 1880 12 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Kokomo 99 3'ga., cls.42, sold 1/94 Sanford & Saint Petersburg Railway 9(2nd) sold 1/98 Flint Riv.Lbr.
5436 Blw 1881 1 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Hesperus 100 3'ga., cls.42, scrap 6/08
5441 Blw 1881 1 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Colonel Boone 101(2nd) 3'ga., cls.42, scrap 8/98
6631 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande 107 3'ga., cls.42.5, sold 7/86 Rio Grande Western 107 sold /89 D&RGW 107
6631 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 107 3'ga., ex /89 RGW 107, scrap 8/98
6632 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande 108 3'ga., cls.42.5, sold 7/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 108 cls.42.5, sold /89 RGW 15
6633 Blw 1883 2 4-4-0 12 18 45 Denver & Rio Grande 109 3'ga., cls.42.5, sold 7/86 Denver & Rio Grande Western Railway 109 cls.42.5, sold /89 RGW 16
[edan.si.edu]
At the DeGolyer here are definitely scans of drawings that I've order of Brazilian locomotives. 90 drawings so far some part drawings. As I identify the order specs for the drawings I post the information in the Tags.
http://digitalcollections.smu.edu/cdm/search/collection/rwy/searchterm/Series%201:%20Engineering%20Drawings/mode/exact
Thor Windbergs
Ludwigsburg, Germany
Facebook: Thor Windbergs
Volunteer G&L RR 86-88
Fireman/Engine Watchman D&S 90-94
Member Frankfurter Feldbahn Musuem, feldbahn-ffm.de
Member IFPPC (Society for Preservation of Perus Pirapora Railroad) Brazil www.internationalsteam.co.uk/trains/brazil54.htm
Member German Standard gauge Group www.eisenbahnfreunde-zollernbahn.de
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