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Re: Helpers based in Chama vs sent there as needed.

December 01, 2017 11:14AM avatar
Right, Greg -

As noted recently at [ngdiscussion.net], per 'Rio Grande Narrow Gauge — The Final Years, Alamosa to Chama' by Hereford & Robart, traffic declined drastically after the Oriental Refinery in Alamosa shut down in September, 1964.  Winter operations ended in December that year, so I presume helpers were no longer stationed in Chama after late summer in 1964.  Not only had hauling GRAMPS oil from Chama to Alamosa ended, but shipments to Farmington had begun to decline and were also being diverted to Rio Grande Motorways trucks as much as possible.  Jimmy Blouch's records can probably confirm the exact date, but IIRC beginning at that time trains ran from Alamosa to Chama with two engines, whether needed or not, so that there would be a helper available from Chama to Cumbres for the return trip (which might or might not involve making a 'Cumbres Turn' or two, depending on the amount of eastbound traffic).

- Roosso

p.s.  Also per Hereford & Robart (op cit), October 3, 1967, was the only only occasion all year when there was more than one 'Cumbres Turn' prior to a third trip the next day, re-assembling the eastbound train at the top of the pass, and heading on to Alamosa.  Traffic had declined so much by 1968 that there was only a single 'Cumbres Turn' the entire year.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2017 11:53AM by Russo Loco.
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Triple headers versus double headers or breaking trains up

kcsivils November 30, 2017 08:54AM

Re: Triple headers versus double headers or breaking trains up

trainrider47 November 30, 2017 09:08AM

Re: Triple headers versus double headers or breaking trains up

drgwk37 November 30, 2017 09:59AM

Re: Triple headers versus double headers or breaking trains up

kcsivils November 30, 2017 10:09AM

Re: Triple headers versus double headers or breaking trains up

george pearce November 30, 2017 11:31AM

Re: Triple headers versus double headers or breaking trains up

narrowgaugejoe10 December 01, 2017 05:15AM

Found previous question on this answered by Earl & John

narrowgaugejoe10 December 01, 2017 05:31AM

Re: Found previous question on this answered by Earl & John

Greg Scholl December 01, 2017 06:16AM

Re: Helpers based in Chama vs sent there as needed.

Russo Loco December 01, 2017 11:14AM

Re: Helpers based in Chama vs sent there as needed.

Greg Scholl December 01, 2017 11:59AM

Re: Complications at Cumbres (3 turns => 1 train)

Russo Loco December 01, 2017 04:39PM



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