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October 18, 2016 03:40PM
Hi,

Here is "proof" that the C&TS is considered a Living Museum and that acquisition of a K-28 of a high importance.

We know there has been much change since 1980 such as the rebuilding of bridges on the Silverton and running of heavier locomotives to Silverton by the D&S. Some of the UTLX/Gramps tank cars have returned.

Some have claimed that the C&TS is an economic engine only. I would like to see proof from somewhere that Living Museum was not in the original legislation.

I would also like to see proof that the Commission owning the C&TS was or was not to have a living museum.

If they started out with living museum, has the laws been amended or the Commission's instructions been changed to remove living museum.

The Historic Preservation study was done as a guideline to govern the historical aspects of the line as opposed to the operator's needs. The operator may not need a K-27, but the living museum might need one.

I am curious about being sure what the current instructions governing the C&TS railroad collective (property - RR Commission, operator, Friends) are.

I believe the answer is operating railroad AND living museum but there has been other opinions. I would like to know the facts as they currently are in force.

Doug vV


Historic Preservation study C&TS.JPG

"During the 1920s a newly reorganized and relatively prosperous D&RGW recognized the antiquity of the narrow gauge lines and basic modernization was begun. One of the main elements of modernizing was new motive power to supplement the 20 year old K-27 class and to retire the remaining old timers from the 1880s. The K-28 class was purchased from the American Locomotive Company in 1923. There were ten locomotives in the class, numbered 470-479. They became immediately popular in passenger service and were soon known as \"sports\" models. All served on the Cumbres route, but through the chance of history none are likely to become available to the C&TSRR.

During World War II the Army requesitioned seven of the ten K-28 class locomotives for service on the White Pass and Yukon Railway between Skagway, Alaska and Whitehorse, Yukon Territory. Heavy wartime and the rigors of the north country left them well worn upon their return to Seattle in 1945. Shortly thereafter they were sold for scrap. The three remaining K-28 locomotives continued to pull the San Juan Limited for years. They are now in use on the Silverton Branch where weight limits on certain bridges prohibit heavier locomotives. All three are hauling long yellow passenger trains. They are all needed for the present service at Silverton, so it is unlikely that any will become available available to the C&TS in the future.

On the other hand, should the Silverton ever cease operation, or should it rebuild the bridges and use its heavier locomotives, then there may be the possibility of obtaining a K-28 for the C&TSRR. This would be a very desirable from a preservation and museum viewpoint because the the C&TSRR would then have an example of all modern D&RGW classes of narrow-gauge steam locomotives."


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