Hi,
updated loco plans locations - 2015-Sept 19
1) thanks for the help offered.
2) if you wish to store this file for easy access, please feel free to do so.
3) I am beyond what the doctor told me about my health problems. Every day is a gravy.
4) Years ago, I saved an on-line rooster of the C&TS equipment. Some years later, it was lost from the internet and (I think) I was the only one to have saved it. I posted a copy (though it had a few errors), I think it is the basis of the Friends current list (much updated and I do not recall who actually did the first compiling).
5) I would think that keeping this listing alive and keeping it updated for the future would be great. As long as it is not used for monetary gain, feel free to make copies and keep updating it.
As for the loco photo locations, I do not have much compiled and will wait until I can figure out a good display format. I currently have it in an old DOS spreadsheet format (SuperCalc).
Once I have a good format and some good information, I'll post it here.
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Hi,
I hope some find this useful. I have tried to list all the NG classes and list them and their cross references and known published plans.
Please take this as a starting point. I am sure I have errors.
Class 25 2-4-0 - NG&SLG 2006
Class 35 2-6-0 - NG&SLG 2006 and 1989 - Smithsonian - DeGolyer Lib.
Class 37 4-4-0
Class 38 4-4-0 - Baldwin erecting card 74
Class 39 0-6-0T
Class 40 2-6-0 - Baldwin erecting card 95 - "Engineering" magazine January 12, 1877, Linda Hall Library has bound copy
Class 42 4-4-0 - MR 1944
Class 42 1/2 4-4-0 - Smithsonian
Class 45 2-6-0
Class 45 1/2 4-6-0 - Smithsonian
*Class 47 4-6-0 - see T12
Class 48 0-6-0T - Fine Lines May 1974
Class 56 2-8-0 - "Rainbow Route"
*Class 60 2-8-0 - "Rainbow Route" - also see C16
*Class 70 2-8-0 - see C17
Class 72 2-8-0 - see C18
Class 74 2-8-0 - see C19
Class 93 2-8-0 - see C21
Class 112 2-8-0 - see C25
Class 125 2-8-2 - see K27
Class 140 2-8-2 - see K28
T12 - MR July 1948
C16 - RMC 1956 - NG&SLG in 2004 & 2005 - "Steam Locomotive Plan Manual"
C17 - not yet located - see comments by Dave Johnson
C18 - "Colorado Rail Annual" about F&CC p166 and NG&SLG 1985
C19 - "Steam Locomotive Plan Manual"
C21 - First, there is a series of books to which I cannot remember the name of the author or publisher.
One is titled "Chama to Cumbres with a little Chili," there is one on Alamosa, Durango and a fourth on Gunnison.
I am sure someone here knows more info on these; my copies are from my fathers collection and at my parents house.
Inside the Gunnison book I believe is a pretty decent drawing of a C-21 though it has been years since I looked.
C25 - NG&SLG 1988
K27 - MR 1971 (as built in March 1971, Rebuilt in June 1971)
The Kozo K-27 project started in Live Steam Jul/Aug 2013 and is on going.
K28 - Model Railroader Cyclopedia - Baby Grande Balsam Shops
K36 - Baby Grande Balsam Shops - CAD DXF online
K37 - MR 1979 - NG&SLG 1997
DM (SV 101/D&RGW 50) - NMRA Bulletin 1972
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OK here's the bit. The D&RGW classification system used after 1924 usually gets shortened a bit.
The full designation is actually {letter}-{TE}-{wt}[1] for ex: T-12-47
so under this system we have:
C-17-70 (300-304, RGS 42)
C-17-71 (306)
C-18-72 (315-320)
C-19-70 (340-349, RGS 40, 41)
[data from D&RGW Folio #7 (CRRM reprint)]
Now at some point ISTR remarking that after all the rebuilding it would have made more sense for the
C-19's to be 74 at the end *but* AFAIK they never were.
Pre 1924 the Classification system just ran on the engine wt, with an S or N appended sometimes to
indicate gauge. So under this we had:
Class 70 (400-411, 417-422) [became C-19, C-17]
Class 00 (427-432) [became 317-319, 360,361,375]!?!
[from reprint of 3rd Div tt #100, 3/28/1920]
or
Class 70 (400,401,403-408,410,411, RGS 40,41 417-419,421,422, RGS 42)
Class 72 (424-429) [became 320, 315-319]
Class 93 (430,431) [became 360,361]
Class 112 (432) [became 375]
and
Class 71 (554,555) [became 305,306]
[Official Roster #11, 1923 (CRRM reprint)]
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Don't use the class 25 and 35 drawings from the Gazette that are listed. Use David Fletcher's drawings of the
two versions of the class 35 2-6-0s as they are drawn from the original drawings.
If you want the original drawings for accuracy, here is a list
Cl. 35 early, Baldwin 12D drawing 1 separate elev & sections, Smithsonian
Cl. 35 2 steam dome, Bald 12D dwy 3 separate elev & sect, DeGolyer Lib.
Cl. 40 2-6-0, "Engineering" magazine January 12, 1877, Linda Hall Library has bound copy
Cl. 42 1/2 separate elev & sect, Smithsonian
Cl. 45 1/2 separate elev & sect, Smithsonian
Cl. 45 erect.card 627, possibly PA State Archives
Cl. 56 #34, Cl.60 #42, and K-28 drawings saved by the late Wayne Lincoln and are now at Denver Public Lib or CRM.
Denver Public Library has about 200 C-16 drawings and about 200 K-27 drawings.
C-17 erect. card 1317, Bald 10-26E, dwy 10, possibly PA State Archives
C-18(F&CC) erect. card 4747, Bald 10-26E, dwy 18, DeGolyer & PA St. Arch.
SN #3&4-same drawing, but erect. card 5438
C-21(CF&I #101, 102) erect. card 2653, DeGolyer
C-25(Cyrstal River #103) erect. card 4399, DeGolyer
Dave Johnson
Comment by Doug vV - I do not find the erecting cards of much use in building a model. They are very interesting historically speaking in the specifications for building the original locomotive.
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Doug vV
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2015 11:50PM by dougvv.
