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Re: F&CC #20 - Black or Green - "The Check Is In The Mail" ...

January 03, 2011 09:40PM
Russo Loco Wrote:
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> HighCommander Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Russ,
> > Let's get serious. That great painting by
> George
> > Niederaruer cannot be documented that F&CC 3
> > & 20 had green boiler jackets. I doubt if color
> film
> > was availible when the F&CC took delivery of
> those
> > 2 locos. I helped remove the boiler jacket of
> 20
> > back in the eighties when John Bush fabricated
> > replacements. There were not any traces of
> green
> > paint on the old jacket. What written proof was
> > there that the 3 F&CC locos. (RGS 20,22, &25
> had
> > green jackets.)? I backed your
> > green painting of the K-36 in Chama, as there
> was
> > proof. I think claiming that the F&CC locos
> had
> > green jackets is a stretch. In the words of
> that
> > great philospher Gaylord Farquar, "No chingada
> mi
> > ferrocarril".
> > I'm open to rebuttal on my position, anyway it
> > could start a whole new thread.
> > - Bill
>
>
> But I am being serious, Bill -
>
> The painting was not intended to be used as
> documentation - it is based on documentation!
>
> According to the caption under Jeff Ellingson's
> painting of #3 on page xx of George's book, 'This
> painting .... shows the Elkton in its original
> colors per the Baldwin Locomotive Works (BLW)
> specifications .... which calls for for painting
> the locomotive and tender in "Olive Green &
> Aluminum" and applying "Finish F 10".' There is a
> great deal of additional information in the
> caption as to the basis for the colors used. 
> Also, IIRC, within the past year or so someone
> posted the builder's card for F&CC #20, and I'm
> pretty sure the spec called for 'Olive Green' with
> silver trim - this was probably the F&CC standard
> at the time, no matter which builder constructed
> their engines.
>
> - Russo (muy) Loco
> The guy with the Accurate Historic Paint fetish
>
> p.s. My check for the #20 matching fund was posted
> this morning.  I'll be VERY happy to see #20
> running again no matter what color she is, RGS
> Black OR F&CC Green - but NOT Tuscan Red or Thomas
> Blue!!
Russ,
Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up. Anyway, thanks for your contribution for 20. It may take a little research into the Museum's records on the F&CC, of which there are a lot. I will focus on the 20 (Portland) but, I think it will be like Henry Ford said about the Model T, "You can have any color you want as long as it's black".
Bill
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