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January 20, 2010 04:56AM avatar
Phil Raynes Wrote:
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> Both the EBT and the ET&WNC had ex-BRB&L coaches.
> The EBT cars were #8, #14, & #15 (I do not know
> their BRB&L numbers). All three of these still
> exist. The ET&WNC had four Laconia cars like the
> EBT #8, numbers 22, 23, 24, & 25. Unfortunately,
> none of these survived to today, although two
> survived into the 1970's as diners.
>
> Phil

I tend to recall that 9-11 were also BRB&L and similar to #8. They are long gone. Also, I seem to recall that the coaches in the 20s were on the roster long before the BRB&L sold coaches to the EBT.

To clarify the "Forney" comment in a prior post:
Forneys were locomotives with rigid drivers under the frame. A Mason Bogie has drivers that swivel just like a truck ("Bogie" is the British word for "truck"). The original Forney design was to function as a 4-4-0 by running it tank-first. The #1 driver was blind to negotiate tight curves. This was a similar set up to the Santa Cruz & Feltons's 2nd 4-4-0 (which in the Smithsonian) when new. The famed Maine Forneys didn't conform to the Forney patent...they had flanges on all drivers and accordingly lacked the nimbleness of true Forneys. Similarly, the Golden Circle (F&CC) forney didn't track too well and so it was rebuilt with a lead truck. In every photo I've seen of her, she is running boiler first just like the Maine Forneys...defeating the advantages of the brilliant design and causing the tracking problems.

The BRB&L used Mason Bogies. They were different animals from Forneys...even though they sort of look similar in photos. The common design element was a single frame for both the engine and tender, allowing for a larger firebox after the drivers. While most NG fans think only of the South Park's 2-6-6ts and 2-8-6ts, many (or most) Mason Bogies were x-4-xts. This smaller design was used on the Wheeling & Lake Erie in the 19th century when it was a NG road. Similarly, both the North Pacific Coast and Cincinnati Northern had a 6-coupled Mason Bogie and a 4-coupled Mason Bogie. The BRB&L enjoyed them to the point that they continued ordering them after Mr. Mason shut down. The BRB&L had 32 Mason Bogies compared to the DSP&P's 23.

Michael
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